Thoughts on Valvoline 300,000 Mile Engine Guarante

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Quaker State started their engine warranty when they got caught around 1980 leaving the friction/wear additives out of their oil.How do you get confidence back and make money at the same time? Warranty!!!!
 

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How would Valvoline protect themselves from customers who run seriously low on oil, causing failure from starvation? The oil could leak out from faulty or old gaskets.
 
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Originally Posted By: CT8
How many people keep their vehicles that long? It is marketing at its best
Me almost there.
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Doesn’t cover knocking , pinging or rattling. Just full failure. Too many outs for Valvoline.
Yup, just as useless as mattress warranty.
 
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Basically it is a wothless warranty being used as a marketing tool Mobil does it as well. I can't say I blame them because of the sheer volume of people who run their engines low on oil because they never check it. Valvoline probably figures 4000 mile changes to compensate for oil loss that, if ran to a full normal OCI, would be engine damage.
 
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The 4,000 miles thing is also to make sure those who are running their engines low on oil will probably not let it drop too low in 4,000 miles. I use 5,000 miles and am not interested in the 20,000 mile thing that’s come up lately.

Still, pretty useless, but eye opening on what Valvoline feels is safe for them.
 
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Basically it is a wothless warranty being used as a marketing tool Mobil does it as well. I can't say I blame them because of the sheer volume of people who run their engines low on oil because they never check it. Valvoline probably figures 4000 mile changes to compensate for oil loss that, if ran to a full normal OCI, would be engine damage.
ExxonMobil has a very good warranty on all their oils. It is relatively free from encumbrances and exceptions as you can read here:


They include warranties that spell out quite liberal allowances and their OCI are the same as what they advertise for their products.

I'm just not sure how or why anyone would not think that's not a decent warranty. Of course no one will probably have a valid claim since the oil is virtually never the cause of an engine failure. But it's not EM's fault that they produce good products.
 
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I've always viewed the Valvoline warranty as just another way to sell more oil, pretty much every car in the past 20 years should be able to run at least a 5000mi OCI based on the manufacturer recommendation, well except certain GDI engines where 4000mi would be a great OCI, this is just a way to convince people to buy more oil in a world pushing towards longer OCIs.
 
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ExxonMobil has a very good warranty on all their oils. It is relatively free from encumbrances and exceptions as you can read here:


They include warranties that spell out quite liberal allowances and their OCI are the same as what they advertise for their products.

I'm just not sure how or why anyone would not think that's not a decent warranty. Of course no one will probably have a valid claim since the oil is virtually never the cause of an engine failure. But it's not EM's fault that they produce good products.


Very, very good post kschachn. Like you stated EM makes great oils.
 
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Only third party warranty I've really seen pay out was Fram, when someone happened to get a filter that was apparently defective from the factory that somehow the anti drainback valve came loose and got sucked into the engine.
 
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The Valvoline guarantee reminds me of the Kryptonite bike lock guarantee. The paper work and rules are ridiculous though and for some reason the guarantee is not valid in New York. If your bike gets stolen, the thief needs to leave behind the lock he cut, you must have police report, must have insurance, must notify them within 48hrs, must have bike registered, ect.........They make it so difficult, it's useless.
 
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My step uncle ironically had a Chevy small block in a truck fail from a spud rod bearing just after 300K miles after having been in the Valvoline engine guarantee for... quite a while :unsure: After 300K it was ineligible.
 

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My step uncle ironically had a Chevy small block in a truck fail from a spud rod bearing just after 300K miles after having been in the Valvoline engine guarantee for... quite a while :unsure: After 300K it was ineligible.
Guess Valvoline did their homework and know what mileage limit to set. 😄
 
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ExxonMobil has a very good warranty on all their oils. It is relatively free from encumbrances and exceptions as you can read here:


They include warranties that spell out quite liberal allowances and their OCI are the same as what they advertise for their products.

I'm just not sure how or why anyone would not think that's not a decent warranty. Of course no one will probably have a valid claim since the oil is virtually never the cause of an engine failure. But it's not EM's fault that they produce good products.
I agree and I use Mobil 1 oils exclusively but I really believe all the warranties are written in their favor. I have never heard of anyone being reimbursed by a motor oil warranty. There is just too many variables they can use to weasel out of it.
 
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thats all advertising lip service. must uninformed customers look at the 300k miles and think “if i put this in my car will last 300k miles. none of the other brands are saying this so it must be the best.”.

hopefully none are saying they dont need to change the oil for 300k miles. that synthetic is good stuff. (SMH)
 
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Worth the bother of committing to Valvoline for life of the vehicle??? In 50 years of driving I've never had an engine fail. Did I just answer my question?! VALVOLINE LIMITED ENGINE WARRANTY If the engine in a Qualifying Vehicle has a Qualifying Engine Breakdown, Ashland Consumer Markets, an operating division of Ashland Inc. (“Valvoline”), will pay the reasonable expenses for the repair or replacement of Covered Engine Parts and the associated labor to restore these Covered Engine Parts to operation, subject to the exclusions, limitations, terms, conditions, Eligibility Requirements, and consumer obligations set forth in this limited warranty (collectively, this “Limited Warranty”). But, Valvoline will not be liable for special, incidental, punitive or consequential damages, including, but not limited to, towing, lodging, business interruption, loss of profits, damage to or loss of other property or persons. Some states may not allow the exclusion or limitation of incidental or consequential damages, so that exclusion may not apply to you. This Limited Warranty gives you certain legal rights. You may have other rights that vary from state to state. Capitalized terms not defined in this Limited Warranty shall have the meanings commonly ascribed to them. COVERED CONSUMERS This Limited Warranty is available only to the consumers who have complied with all Eligibility Requirements and who are at least 16 years of age on the date of Vehicle Registration (“Covered Consumers”). For purposes of this Limited Warranty a Covered Consumer may include a business entity (e.g., corporation, partnership, limited liability company, or similar entities). WARRANTY EFFECTIVE DATE AND COVERAGE COMMENCEMENT DATE This Limited Warranty becomes effective once the Covered Consumer has completed the Vehicle Registration process, except in states where registration is not required. In these states, this Limited Warranty becomes effective the date after March 1, 2010 when Covered Consumer has (i)(a) purchased qualifying Valvoline motor oil and changed oil in the Qualifying Vehicle (a “do it yourself” or “DIY oil change”) or (b) purchased an oil change that uses qualifying Valvoline motor oil for the Qualifying Vehicle (a “do it for me” or “DIFM” oil change), that date being the date of Vehicle Registration. Vehicle Registration must occur on or after March 1, 2010. Coverage commences on the later of: (a) 18 months after the date of Vehicle Registration, (b) the date the Qualifying Vehicle has been driven 7,501 miles since the date it was enrolled, or (c) the date the Qualifying Vehicle has had at least 2 oil changes since the date it was enrolled (the “Coverage Commencement Date”). DURATION OF WARRANTY This Limited Warranty covers the Qualifying Vehicle during the period from the Coverage Commencement Date through the date the Qualifying Vehicle reaches Maximum Mileage, as defined below under “Levels of Protection,” unless the Covered Consumer fails at any time to fully comply with this Limited Warranty. Levels of Protection: Valvoline offers three different levels of protection which cover the Covered Consumer’s Qualifying Vehicle up to the following maximum number of miles (the “Maximum Mileage”): 150,000 Miles: To be eligible, Covered Consumers must change engine oil and filter before every 4,000 miles continuously and exclusively using Valvoline Premium Conventional Motor Oil or Valvoline NextGen Conventional Motor Oil (or a Valvoline oil listed below in a higher level of protection). 225,000 Miles: To be eligible, Covered Consumer must change engine oil and filter before every 4,000 miles continuously and exclusively using either Valvoline MaxLife Motor Oil, Valvoline NextGen High Mileage Motor Oil or Valvoline DuraBlend Motor Oil (or a Valvoline oil listed below in a higher level of protection). 300,000 Miles: To be eligible, Covered Consumers must change engine oil and filter before every 4,000 miles continuously and exclusively using Valvoline Full Synthetic Motor Oil, Valvoline SynPower Full Synthetic Motor Oil, SynPower NextGen Full Synthetic Motor Oil, MaxLife Full Synthetic Motor Oil, or Valvoline Full Synthetic High Mileage with MaxLife ™ Technology. 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ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS: Qualifying Vehicles: A Qualifying Vehicle is a privately owned or leased, passenger car, van, or pickup/light truck that has a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 10,000 pounds and the odometer has fewer than 125,000 miles at the time of registration and fewer than 131,001 miles on the date of its first qualifying oil change on or after March 1, 2010. “Qualifying Vehicles” excludes: a) vehicles modified or used for any type of competitive, timed, or exhibition motorsports activity (e.g. racing, autocrossing), b) vehicles used for agricultural purposes, c) vehicles where the engine has been modified with equipment or parts that would void the vehicle manufacturer’s warranty, d) vehicles that have been modified with non-factory equipment or accessories (e.g., snow plow attachment, etc.), e) vehicles with diesel engines, f) vehicles that are more than 19 years old at the time they are enrolled, and g) kit cars. Each Covered Consumer may enroll up to 20 vehicles under this Limited Warranty. The Covered Consumer must be the owner or lessee of the Qualifying Vehicle enrolled. Vehicle Registration: Covered Consumers must enroll their Qualifying Vehicle and select the level of protection desired, complete the online registration form, and agree to the terms and conditions of this Limited Warranty by visiting www.valvoline.com or www.engineguarantee.com. FOR RESIDENTS OF CALIFORNIA ONLY, THE FAILURE TO COMPLETE VEHICLE REGISTRATION DOES NOT DIMINISH THE COVERED CONSUMER’S LIMITED WARRANTY RIGHTS UNDER THIS LIMITED WARRANTY. A CALIFORNIA RESIDENT THAT DOES NOT COMPLETE VEHICLE REGISTRATION MUST COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS TO BE COVERED BY THIS LIMITED WARRANTY, AND COVERAGE OF CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS UNDER THIS LIMITED WARRANTY IS SUBJECT TO ALL EXCLUSIONS AND LIMITATIONS LISTED IN THIS LIMITED WARRANTY. Consumer Obligations: Covered Consumers must record their vehicle mileage at the completion of Vehicle Registration. THE COVERED CONSUMER MUST CHANGE THE QUALIFYING VEHICLE’S OIL EXCLUSIVELY AND CONTINUOUSLY WITH VALVOLINE® MOTOR OIL. THE COVERED CONSUMER MUST CHANGE THE QUALIFYING VEHICLE’S OIL AT LEAST ONE TIME PER YEAR AND BEFORE EVERY 4,000 MILES TO QUALIFY FOR THIS LIMITED WARRANTY. Covered Consumers must go to www.valvoline.com or www.engineguarantee.com and record oil changes with the following required information within 90 days after the oil change occurred: date of oil change, mileage at time of oil change and product used. Covered Consumers are required to keep all motor oil receipts as proof of purchase and will be required to submit proof of purchase if a claim is submitted. Any oil changes taking place at a Valvoline Instant Oil Change will not require receipts as these records are already available to Valvoline. ADDITIONAL TERMS, CONDITIONS, LIMITATIONS, AND EXCLUSIONS THIS LIMITED WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER ANY DAMAGE THAT OCCURS PRIOR TO THE COVERAGE COMMENCEMENT DATE. “Covered Engine Parts” means all internal "oil wetted" engine parts, including: pistons, piston rings, piston pins, crankshaft and main bearings, connection rods and rod bearings, camshaft and camshaft bearings, timing chain and timing gears, intake and exhaust valves, valve springs, guides, oil pump, push rods, rocker arms, hydraulic lifters and rocker arm shafts. The engine block and cylinder heads are also covered if mechanical failure was caused by a failure of the above-listed parts. Covered Engine Parts does not include the following: a) all fuel system parts, b) all ignition, starting and electrical system parts, c) turbocharger and supercharger systems, d) the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system, and e) exhaust manifolds. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY COVERS THE COVERED ENGINE PARTS, INCLUDING LABOR COSTS FOR REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT OF THE COVERED ENGINE PARTS, AND THIS LIMITED WARRANTY COVERS NO OTHER PARTS OR LABOR. Replacement will be made with a part that is of a like kind and quality (i.e., new, remanufactured or used parts) compatible with the original design specifications and wear tolerances of the Covered Vehicle. “Qualifying Engine Breakdown” means a) the immediate and apparent total mechanical failure of a Covered Part to work as it was designed to work in normal services, and b) the vehicle electrical, fuel, computer engine management, cooling, induction and exhaust systems are all working properly, and are not the cause of engine failure. A Qualifying Engine Breakdown does not include the reduction in operating performance due to wear and tear, including a reduction in engine compression due to worn rings or valves, or abnormal sounds such as “knocking,” “pinging,” or “rattling” sounds when a breakdown has not occurred. Each qualifying oil change must include an oil filter replacement and enough required Valvoline motor oil to fill the Qualifying Vehicle’s crankcase. The Qualifying Vehicle engine must be serviced exclusively with the vehicle manufacturer’s required viscosity and grade. IF YOUR VEHICLE MANUFACTURER RECOMMENDS A FULL SYNTHETIC OR SEMI-SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL, YOU WILL ONLY BE COVERED BY THIS LIMITED WARRANTY IF YOU SIGN UP FOR THE 300,000 MILE WARRANTY (FOR FULL SYNTHETIC VEHICLES) FOR VALVOLINE’S LINE OF SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL OR THE 225,000 MILE WARRANTY (FOR SEMI-SYNTHETIC VEHICLES) FOR VALVOLINE’S LINE OF SEMI-SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL. The Covered Consumer must replace the Qualifying Vehicle’s air filter as often as the Qualifying Vehicle manufacturer recommends. The Covered Consumer must maintain the Qualifying Vehicle’s emission control system in compliance with the Qualifying Vehicle’s manufacturer recommendations. The Covered Consumer must comply with all scheduled engine maintenance recommended by the Qualifying Vehicle’s manufacturer as outlined in the Qualifying Vehicle’s owners manual. The Covered Consumer must repair significant oil leaks and perform other necessary maintenance and repairs to prevent damage to the engine. Valvoline may require that the Qualifying Vehicle be repaired at a certified repair facility or performed by an ASE Certified Mechanic for approved engine claim repair work under this Limited Warranty. Valvoline may pay the repair facility that performs the repair or reimburse the Covered Consumer. At Valvoline’s option, if the cost of repair exceeds the value of the Qualifying Vehicle, Valvoline may pay the Covered Consumer an amount equal to the private sale value of the Qualifying Vehicle on the date of a Qualifying Engine Breakdown as set forth by Kelley Blue Book or some other similar listing of vehicle values if a Kelley Blue Book value is not available. VALVOLINE’S LIABILITY TO PAY FOR REPAIRS (OR THE VALUE OF THE QUALIFYING VEHICLE) IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF $5,000.00 OVER THE LIFE OF THIS LIMITED WARRANTY. Valvoline’s obligation to repair or replace any listed/covered part, as may be required, is the sole and exclusive remedy available to you under this Limited Warranty. Valvoline is only responsible for the repairs it approves. If Valvoline pays anything under this Limited Warranty, and the Covered Consumer has a right to recover costs from another party, the Covered Consumer’s rights will become Valvoline’s rights, up to the amount Valvoline paid. And the Covered Consumer will do whatever is necessary to enable Valvoline to enforce these rights. The failure of any Covered Engine Part that is related to any pending legal proceeding or recall or for which the manufacturer has announced its responsibility by any means, is excluded from coverage under this Limited Warranty. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER CLAIMS ALSO COVERED BY THE QUALIFYING VEHICLE’S MANUFACTURER WARRANTY OR ANY EXTENDED SERVICE CONTRACT OR WARRANTY. However, if a Covered Consumer has otherwise complied with this Limited Warranty, Valvoline will pay the deductible amount to be paid by the Covered Consumer under any existing extended service contract previously purchased by the Covered Consumer which covers engine damage to the Qualifying Vehicle. This Limited Warranty does not extend the Qualifying Vehicle manufacturer’s warranty. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER CLAIMS THAT ARE THE RESULT OF: COLLISION OR OTHER ACCIDENT; THEFT; VANDALISM; RIOT; EXPLOSION; EARTHQUAKE; LIGHTNING; FREEZING; OVERHEATING; INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL FIRE; WATER OR FLOOD DAMAGE (INCLUDING PRIOR FLOOD DAMAGE); NEGLIGENT, RECKLESS, KNOWING OR INTENTIONAL DAMAGE; TIMING BELT FAILURE; IMPROPER SERVICE OR MAINTENANCE; DEFECT ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE VEHICLE MANUFACTURER; IMPROPER INSTALLATION OF ANY PART; FLUID CONTAMINATION (I.E., COOLANT, FUEL, WATER OR FOREIGN MATERIAL); OR THE FAILURE TO KEEP THE MOTOR OIL AND ENGINE COOLANT AT LEVELS PRESCRIBED BY THE MANUFACTURER. Valvoline may refuse payment of any claims that otherwise comply with the terms of this Limited Warranty where Valvoline believes in good faith that one or more of these causes contributed to the damage claimed. This Limited Warranty may be deemed void by Valvoline in its sole discretion if the Covered Consumer records the type of oil used or mileage interval incorrectly or if the Qualifying Vehicle’s true mileage cannot be determined (for example, due to a malfunctioning odometer). Unless earlier terminated for non-compliance with the terms and conditions, all coverage under this Limited Warranty ends on June 1, 2029, or when the odometer reading has exceeded the Maximum Mileage restrictions, whichever occurs first. Any claims accruing after 12:00 AM, Eastern Daylight Time on June 2, 2029, shall not be covered by this Limited Warranty. All claims must be filed on or before July 1, 2029. Valvoline may extend the expiration date of this Limited Warranty without notice. This Limited Warranty is only available in the United States of America, which includes the 50 states and the District of Columbia but does not include any U.S. territories. 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If the Covered Consumer fails to change oil within 6,000 miles from the previous oil change, that event will not be considered a qualifying “exception”, and this Limited Warranty will become null and void. Valvoline may add coverage categories or discontinue offering coverage categories at any time in its sole discretion without notice. Valvoline may close registration for this Limited Warranty at any time without notice. If Valvoline discontinues coverage for a category, no new vehicle registrations will be allowed in the discontinued category. If Valvoline closes registration, no new vehicle registrations will be allowed. However, those Covered Consumers then participating in this Limited Warranty program will continue to be covered so long as they comply with all terms and conditions of the Limited Warranty. These terms and conditions may only be changed by Valvoline. FILING A CLAIM To file a claim under this Limited Warranty, Covered Consumers must: Be sure the Qualifying Vehicle is protected from further damage; Upon discovery of the damages (but not later than 30 days from the date the damage occurred), visit www.valvoline.com or www.engineguarantee.com for instruction on filing a claim) or call 1-877-274-6703 (a claim may also be made in writing to Valvoline Engine Guarantee, PO Box 11336, Lexington, Kentucky 40512); Receive repair approval from Administrator prior to cleaning, repairing or replacing any covered parts (no claims will be paid without prior authorization). To receive repair approval Covered Consumers must contact the Administrator at its toll-free number listed above or, in the case of those submitting a claim in writing, the Administrator will contact the Covered Consumer directly; Provide all information requested by Valvoline; and Make the vehicle available for inspection at Valvoline’s request. 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If a claim is not paid within 60 days, you may file a claim directly with the insurer: Ashland, Inc., Attn: Georgia Engine Guarantee Claim, PO Box 11336, Lexington, KY 40512. Consumers may opt out of this limited warranty at any time.
In my opinion no and here is why. Valvoline makes you change the oil every 3k miles. You can register for the Pennzoil 15 year 500k mile warranty and only change as often as the manufacturer states in the manual. If you want a warranty that's the one most worth you time and effort.
 
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