Who makes BMW's "store brand" oil?

ply said:
It is not clear, the 150 countries look good, but I think the US is a big enough market that its name should appear separately in such an announcement.
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Agreed, the Shell announcement is not very clear and does not specifically specify North America.

"Hamburg – Shell has renewed its partnership with the BMW Group in the Rest of World (RoW) and Asia clusters. It will continue to supply the aftersales business of all BMW Group brands as the exclusive producer and supplier of engine oil to these regions until 2027."

If you read BMWs business segments online, they break them out as follows:
1) Europe
2) Asia
3) Americas
4) Rest of World

So by inference, Europe and Americas may not be included in Shell's announcement.

Also, we are all pretty familiar with Castrol's announcement in 2021:

"bp (February 15th, 2021), a world leading supplier of high-performance lubricants, and the manufacturer of the Castrol Oil Brands, is proud to announce it has been selected as the engine oil partner for BMW and MINI authorized dealers across the US, Canada, and Mexico. This new five-year agreement re-establishes a long-standing partnership between these two premium brands as Castrol had been the engine oil supplier over a 14-year span."
 
svenson said:
sure,but what is the rest of the world refers to? is it europe too? bcs. in europe they told me that castrol is the big name too.somebody told me again that dealerships buy barrels from whatever company have the better offer.depsite the deal with shell or castrol.who knows what is happening when nothing can be crystal clear on the bottle description.why cant they label it made by castrol ,so to know where is it coming from?
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It is therefore a strange announcement that in 2015 or 2016, when Shell became the supplier (right after Castrol), it was specifically made. Now they name only Asia, but 150 countries cannot be just Asia. Yes, before the announcement I also read the rumors that Castrol would return to Europe. Shell may well have lost Europe and the US...
It modifies
https://www.castrol.com/en_us/unite...room/bp-awarded-bmw-genuine-oil-contract.html
It is true that it is a 2021 announcement, but taking everything into account, it is quite likely that Castrol is the partner in the US.
And from this vague Shell announcement, it seems to have lost Europe as well.
 
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f355spider said:
Agreed, the Shell announcement is not very clear and does not specifically specify North America.

"Hamburg – Shell has renewed its partnership with the BMW Group in the Rest of World (RoW) and Asia clusters. It will continue to supply the aftersales business of all BMW Group brands as the exclusive producer and supplier of engine oil to these regions until 2027."

If you read BMWs business segments online, they break them out as follows:
1) Europe
2) Asia
3) Americas
4) Rest of World

So by inference, Europe and Americas may not be included in Shell's announcement.

Also, we are all pretty familiar with Castrol's announcement in 2021:

"bp (February 15th, 2021), a world leading supplier of high-performance lubricants, and the manufacturer of the Castrol Oil Brands, is proud to announce it has been selected as the engine oil partner for BMW and MINI authorized dealers across the US, Canada, and Mexico. This new five-year agreement re-establishes a long-standing partnership between these two premium brands as Castrol had been the engine oil supplier over a 14-year span."
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I've been corresponding with Shell since yesterday. I should have an answer soon
 
f355spider said:
Agreed, the Shell announcement is not very clear and does not specifically specify North America.

"Hamburg – Shell has renewed its partnership with the BMW Group in the Rest of World (RoW) and Asia clusters. It will continue to supply the aftersales business of all BMW Group brands as the exclusive producer and supplier of engine oil to these regions until 2027."

If you read BMWs business segments online, they break them out as follows:
1) Europe
2) Asia
3) Americas
4) Rest of World

So by inference, Europe and Americas may not be included in Shell's announcement.

Also, we are all pretty familiar with Castrol's announcement in 2021:

"bp (February 15th, 2021), a world leading supplier of high-performance lubricants, and the manufacturer of the Castrol Oil Brands, is proud to announce it has been selected as the engine oil partner for BMW and MINI authorized dealers across the US, Canada, and Mexico. This new five-year agreement re-establishes a long-standing partnership between these two premium brands as Castrol had been the engine oil supplier over a 14-year span."
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BMWTurboDzl said:
I've been corresponding with Shell since yesterday. I should have an answer soon
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no need too..
BMWs business segments online, they break them out as follows:
1) Europe -> CASTROL/BP
2) Asia -> SHELL until 2027
3) Americas -> CASTROL/BP
4) Rest of World -> SHELL until 2027
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confirms what just i said in earlier post for Europe
 
svenson said:
no need too..

confirms what just i said in earlier post for Europe
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Based on the highlighted part of Shell's announcement, however, it is as if Shell had remained in Europe. Although it is still strange that he does not name Europe.


shell.webp
 
Having recently acquired a B48 new BMW this thread was of interest to me.

I noticed on FCP Euro that the 0w12 BMW Oil says "Made in China," on the back of the bottle. Is that a little odd?
 
Ayrton said:
Yeah I don't like the 0w12 nor the Castrol part tbh.

I'm even thinking of using another product during my intermittent changes between the free ones.
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You can also your dealer to use a different oil. I asked my VW dealer to use 504 00 instead of 508 00 for the free changes.
 
Went to my local BMW dealer to pick up some TPT 0w30 LL01-FE (Castrol) only to be told the part number has changed to 83215B7FDD1 along with the supplier which is now Shell and shipments of the new oil will be coming in 4/1. Tried searching online and couldn't find anything about Shell
 
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The last news release was that BMW had renewed the contract with Castrol in 2021.
Maybe BMW is multi-sourcing. World wide, BMW and MB have used multiple regional suppliers for FF. Like Fuchs in Germany and Indonesian and Chinese companies at factories there.
 
I found it amusing when the contract went from Castrol to Shell and people were freaking out they no longer had the "correct oil" in their car. :ROFLMAO:
The same people on several BMW forums freaked again when it went back to Castrol. :eek:
Panic! Panic! Castrol must be bad oil or BMW wouldn't have dropped them!!!!!!.
OMG!!!! Pennzoil must be bad oil or BMW wouldn't have dropped them!!!!
I'm waiting for news about the new SS. The old SS is now obsolete.
 
CleanSump said:
I found it amusing when the contract went from Castrol to Shell and people were freaking out they no longer had the "correct oil" in their car. :ROFLMAO:
The same people on several BMW forums freaked again when it went back to Castrol. :eek:
Panic! Panic! Castrol must be bad oil or BMW wouldn't have dropped them!!!!!!.
OMG!!!! Pennzoil must be bad oil or BMW wouldn't have dropped them!!!!
I'm waiting for news about the new SS. The old SS is now obsolete.
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The Shell product was GTL with a ridiculously low NOAK. I was annoyed when BMW went back to Castrol.

http://pqiadata.org/BMW_5W30.html
 
BMWTurboDzl said:
The Shell product was GTL with a ridiculously low NOAK. I was annoyed when BMW went back to Castrol.

http://pqiadata.org/BMW_5W30.html
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on the opposite i was annoyed when they went from castrol to shell.not that i dont like shell oils and edyw praised that 5-30 tpt..but as i have mentioned again ,with shell tpt back on 2016 and again in 2023 i saw a more consumption that the old castrol tpt. its a thing that many drivers pointed out without knowing the reason why that happens.
 
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