Which oil cleans more: HPL or Valvoline Restore and Protect?

I am really interested in one of these cleaning oils for something I have been working on for some time and it is finally almost ready to see the road in the spring. This is the one I am going with. Once it is cleaned up it will get Mobil 1 0w40 3K OCI.
Edit: I know someone that has a few gal of this stuff I can get but it seems unavailable otherwise.

https://partner.valvolineglobal.com/en/lp/premium-blue-restore/

https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...3793b338/410ade0c-1c23-ed11-b815-48df3793b338
Seems like HPL & VPB Restore have a lot in common-using esters to clean what lesser oils have left behind. If I had a known ring issue engine, I would go Restore & Protect-but I'm on the fence for VR&P for just straight cleaning.
 
Seems like HPL & VPB Restore have a lot in common-using esters to clean what lesser oils have left behind. If I had a known ring issue engine, I would go Restore & Protect-but I'm on the fence for VR&P for just straight cleaning.
Maybe correct about those two - quality wise. Doing what they are, slowly gaining good reputations from drivers who use the products in their daily use vehicles and others. Eventually we will likely find videos of mechanics doing tear down work etc... to share some of what they see from users. The fact we do not have that yet .... and the longer we do not is nothing but GOOD news.... As some say "no news is good news." Could be true.

Thing with HPL, is they have professional racers and fleet operators using the products too, who can not take cheap product chances that could lead to failure in their work. I dont think any of us can go wrong using either of these oils or many sitting on the shelf in stores. JUST as long as we do not go too long between changes.... :unsure:
 
This "may" be a bad idea. "Sometimes" the additive packages of different oils don't chemically get along.

The chemical engineers at these companies did a lot of work to figure out the concentration of each additive in the add package of these oils, and backed that up with spending a significant amount of money and time actually testing these oils by running engines using them.

People that mix oils are basicly throwing all this research work out the window and taking an unknown shot in the dark by mixing something up.

Lake Speed has gone into this on his YouTube videos. It's a really bad idea. Just don't mix oils.

Formulating good motor oil may not be rocket science, but it does require very intelligent people who are very knowledgeable about all the additives and how they interact with each other.
You made some good points. Since HPL EC30 is made to be mixed with another oil in a 1:5 ratio, my comment was simply why not let the "other oil it's mixed with" be Valvoline R&P.
 
You made some good points. Since HPL EC30 is made to be mixed with another oil in a 1:5 ratio, my comment was simply why not let the "other oil it's mixed with" be Valvoline R&P.
Screw it, full send. That's what I plan to do. I want to switch to HPL after my fourth OCI of the VRP is done
 
Did a ‘cold turkey’ swap on the wife’s Q7 (was burning a quart every 2500 miles) and we are about 1000 miles in and so far no burning. Could be placebo effect but I swear it runs smoother. So, after that success, I bought a case of supercar HPL for my S8 (previously running LM) that’s being changed over this week. No issue with oil consumption*, just want to keep it that way and the engine as healthy as possible. I did double check with HPL, who said that with my current mileage, driving habits, yearly mileage…switching straight over is no issue.
*now gas consumption on the other hand is another story entirely (13 MPG in the city) LOL
 
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