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.You wouldn't believe the things they do down in the park.
I’m pretty sure I would.
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.You wouldn't believe the things they do down in the park.
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I’m pretty sure I would.
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.It's part of a song lyric.
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What genre? Era?
.Gary Numan, down in the park. late 70s Id say
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I’m a retired jazz/commercial musician of 48 years and thousands of gigs. I had to look up Gary Numan. Not a genre I would be familiar with.
Which is??The oil I chose uses similar technoligy to HPL though
LOL..
I’m a retired jazz/commercial musician of 48 years and thousands of gigs. I had to look up Gary Numan. Not a genre I would be familiar with.
Unless Valvoline is committing fraud by publishing fake pictures that is impressive. I have no experience with either to comment if one is better than the other.Hasn't been determined. R&P is a new technology where as HPL is using the traditional high solvency/detergent way which is proven. If you're using HPL you shouldn't have any carbon ring build up.
R&P is also limited in terms of viscosity grades. It's also not as long drain capable as HPL.
R&P has a unique chemistry that even impressed Dr. Warholic who worked for Infineum for over 16 years.
Cleaning piston deposits is not an easy task. Valvoline had to really make an oil with substantial group V (50%) for it to be able to remove piston deposits. Cleaning sludge and other carbon is not the same as piston deposits, something that most get wrong.
You'd have to run a test and tear down the engine and look at pistons, which no one is going to do.
Valvoline does give you this:
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The all saints basement sessions are some of his best work..
I’m a retired jazz/commercial musician of 48 years and thousands of gigs. I had to look up Gary Numan. Not a genre I would be familiar with.
I agree. It's highly unlikely. Would be more likely if it was some small no name blender with no testing facility.Unless Valvoline is committing fraud by publishing fake pictures that is impressive. I have no experience with either to comment if one is better than the other.
That's what I'm going to do next oil change with my sludgy dodge Dakotas engine.Why not use both: Valvoline R&P + 1 quart HPL EC 30.
I’m currently in the middle of a R&P test on an oil burner. When complete I will post all the details, probably in the spring. If it does work it’s literally a game changer IMO, because of the cost.
I will say this. My next new car will get HPL or Amsoil SS from day 1. I don’t want to deal with another oil burner, especially with the cost of new vehicles. I can also say 5k oil changes with top tier otc oils did not keep my low tension rings from sticking. But the rest of the internals look new.
Do you toss or turn any with flashes of "denied warranty" due to no official API certification?Simply put, the above bolded comment is why, after 2,300 miles of the factory fill on my ‘23 Highlander Hybrid 2.5L, I am now using HPL premium(+) PCMO for 10k mile OCIs.
And I don’t lose sleep at night because of my choice of oil brand, viscosity, or OCI.
Do you toss or turn any with flashes of "denied warranty" due to no official API certification?
I noticed since the very start of using HPL oils (not engine cleaners they sell) the oil does not turn dark nearly as fast as any other motor oils did that were used in the wife's engine. About half way thru the 3500 to 4500 mi oci I run , it will slowly turn dark as if it is eventually doing some type cleaning of the engine insides. Nothing dramatic as the filters always look normal when doing the regular oil changes.I’m at 3700 miles on my 1st run of hpl on a car that had idemitsu every 5k since new and sits at 42k. The oils darkened a bit, but nothing dramatic. Chances are my engine wasn’t dirty to begin with so I have nothing eventful to bring to the table.
That still won't answer your question of which one works better.I didn’t ask about controlled tests. I wanted to know real world results like few here have shown pictures of.
That's because you have-yet to receive an engine reaction to a particular oil. Once you begin receiving reactions under the hood, you will think differently when changing oil brands, viscosities and/or OCIs.And I don’t lose sleep at night because of my choice of oil brand, viscosity, or OCI.