All the time....every time. Exactly what the law requires.
Everytime before I change roads (intersections), pull in or out of traffic, cross the lane markings or going around an obstruction even if I can stay in my lane.Anytime I need folks around me to know my intentions. Changing lanes on the highway. Moving into a turn lane at an intersection. However, I don't keep them on in right or left-only turn lanes at lights because once I'm in the lane (signaled to get in of course!) there is no ambiguity w/r to my intentions. Turn signal use seems to be a lost skill.
Same here....I have seen that as well.I have. He was to my left. He had to slam his brakes on to avoid smashing into the guardrail. I'm not really sure what was going through the useless mass of biological material that passes for his brain.
I don't know how to respond to your turn signal noise annoying you. That trumps safe driving practices?I am not lazy b/c I sit in a left only turn leg and don't want to listen to my turn signal clicking for a few mintues. I've never seen someone drive straight through an intersection from a left-only green arrow turn lane and I'm not sure the signal would change the outcome for the others in the intersection.
Maybe Virginia drivers are less asinine than Michigan drivers?
Other people may not know that a vehicle is in a turn-only lane - not only other drivers but also pedestrians and cyclists. You can't presume everybody to be 100% familiar with each intersection and the lane layout. With the current state of driving behavior, I'm just glad when other drivers are in turn lanes when they are turning or that they really turn when in a turn lane.I don't see the point in having a turn signal on in the left turn lane. Isn't it obvious that all the cars are going to be making a left turn?
It's an added level of intent. Besides, it's the law.I don't see the point in having a turn signal on in the left turn lane. Isn't it obvious that all the cars are going to be making a left turn?
The blinkers show the primary level of intent regardless of the legal situation. Drivers often turn where they shouldn't or mustn't turn and if they do, showing intent is even more important.It's an added level of intent. Besides, it's the law.
That's what I thought. Got pulled over by a state trooper for turning left from a left turn only lane without signal. I signaled prior to moving into that lane. Figured no need after. So I still don't sit there with it annoyingly blinking the whole time but when I start moving forward I activate the momentary to get my 3 blinks. And I have the Forscan to supposedly be able to adjust the momentary to 5 blinks each time.Anytime I need folks around me to know my intentions. Changing lanes on the highway. Moving into a turn lane at an intersection. However, I don't keep them on in right or left-only turn lanes at lights because once I'm in the lane (signaled to get in of course!) there is no ambiguity w/r to my intentions. Turn signal use seems to be a lost skill.
If a cop is there/can see me then yes...I use them.That's what I thought. Got pulled over by a state trooper for turning left from a left turn only lane without signal. I signaled prior to moving into that lane. Figured no need after. So I still don't sit there with it annoyingly blinking the whole time but when I start moving forward I activate the momentary to get my 3 blinks. And I have the Forscan to supposedly be able to adjust the momentary to 5 blinks each time.
Apparently this is an issue forI don't see the point in having a turn signal on in the left turn lane. Isn't it obvious that all the cars are going to be making a left turn?
When I read this I think - if I followed you on a daily basis as you drive to you 1) ever exceed the posted speed limit...even by 1mph? 2) do you come to a complete stop, car settles back, at every stop sign even in neighborhoods when nobody is around? Maybe you do, but it's unlikely you have "safe driving practices" 100% of the time, just like about everyone else on the road and you apply the basics of risk assessment in situations like that. If I am in a left only/green arrow lane that is separate from all other lanes, using a signal is redundant in my eyes once I've signaled my intent to enter that lane. I only do this with green arrow only intersections. Flashing yellow is new here and I ALWAYS signal at those intersections as it's effectively the same as the older green light turn lanes with traffic flow through the intersection from the opposite direction...they need to see that I may be turning. The intersections I am thinking of when I do this are not risks...else I would signal. I have not dealt with this issue I guess w/r to folks in a turn-only lane (right/left) going straight but my normal defensive/scanning driving takes care of it on my end....always ready for someone to be unpredictable or screw up!I don't know how to respond to your turn signal noise annoying you. That trumps safe driving practices?
Maybe Virginia drivers are less asinine than Michigan drivers?
Here's an example of left turn lane ONLY intersection and you can see what might happen if the southbound left turn car decides to go straight and a northbound left turn car is there at same time (yellow blinking turn arrow). Happens often here. I think people don't comprehend they are in a left turn lane only or maybe they just change their mind? If they have no turn signal on, I am extra careful. Just the other day I witnessed someone in the right turn lane that went straight across the intersection.
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It seems that many people have decided that they can modify their driving habits as they see fit to appease their desires, ignoring the law and common sense:
"National law requires all automotive vehicles have operational turn signal devices installed and that drivers use those signals to indicate any lane change or turn. And yes, that goes for turns performed in designated turning lanes, too." https://trafficschoolonline.com/blog/unusual-traffic-laws
Michigan statuate: "and shall give a signal as required in this section.” This applies even when you’re making a turn from a designated turn lane. Many people think that if you’re in a turn lane, you don’t need to signal your turn, but this is not the case."
I only do this with green arrow only intersections. Flashing yellow is new here and I ALWAYS signal at those intersections as it's effectively the same as the older green light turn lanes with traffic flow through the intersection from the opposite direction...they need to see that I may be turning.