What's everyone's favorite 0w-20 these days?

[Glenda W.]

I'm reading that as reducing buildup, not removing. So adding deposits and sludge at a lower rate.

I agree. I have a clean up test currently in progress with ESP which should be completed by fall. So far it’s promising.

 

[cammyfive79]

I am preparing for the worst. I ran HPL Premium Plus 0w16 for a little over 5,000 miles. If I find stuff in my oil filter, I will use their top of the line Super Car for some serious cleaning.
I just don't understand what this means about super car 0w20. Is this some kind of experimental oil or something?

View attachment 277782

Overkill had this made for him as a 'custom' blend. I'm not aware of another oil with a 502/05 VW add pack in a 0W-20....most are 0/5-30 or a 40wt. In that sense, it is truly unique.

To my knowledge, all HPL oils have a good slug of ester and ANs in them for cleaning/detergents. Premium Plus has more PAO for cold weather crank ability. Just for fun, I ponder going Super Car 0W-30 or Euro 5W-30 for my TSX...any HPL will be so far overkill, no pun intended to our forum member, that it's purely an academic exercise.

 

[OVERKILL]

Overkill had this made for him as a 'custom' blend. I'm not aware of another oil with a 502/05 VW add pack in a 0W-20....most are 0/5-30 or a 40wt. In that sense, it is truly unique.

To my knowledge, all HPL oils have a good slug of ester and ANs in them for cleaning/detergents. Premium Plus has more PAO for cold weather crank ability. Just for fun, I ponder going Super Car 0W-30 or Euro 5W-30 for my TSX...any HPL will be so far overkill, no pun intended to our forum member, that it's purely an academic exercise.

Precisely, this oil has a Full-SAPS A3/B4, A40, LL-01, 229.5...etc additive package, which is normally used in oils with an HTHS of 3.5 or higher, in a 0W-20.

 

[Blagoje]

I bought two 5 quart jugs of PUP 0w20 today from Weimart to get the rebate. I like M1 ESP 0W20 but wanted to try something different. I think I've got the GTL fever

 

[cammyfive79]

Precisely, this oil has a Full-SAPS A3/B4, A40, LL-01, 229.5...etc additive package, which is normally used in oils with an HTHS of 3.5 or higher, in a 0W-20.

Just curious - this may have been answered in another thread I didn't see - is the reason you are using the 0W20 that your truck recommends because you can satisfy that recommendation while also getting the benefits that higher viscosities provide such as a higher HTHS, 502 additive package with full SAPS, etc? Is there a different reason you requested that blend for a 0W-20 instead of just using the Supercar 0W-30 or even 0W-40?

 

[ATex7239]

I’ve been on a VL kick lately. VL product in every vehicle at the moment. Subject to change.

 

[OVERKILL]

Just curious - this may have been answered in another thread I didn't see - is the reason you are using the 0W20 that your truck recommends because you can satisfy that recommendation while also getting the benefits that higher viscosities provide such as a higher HTHS, 502 additive package with full SAPS, etc? Is there a different reason you requested that blend for a 0W-20 instead of just using the Supercar 0W-30 or even 0W-40?

Yeah, the truck spec's a 5W-20 (later 0W-20), and the HEMI isn't known for having bottom-end issues on that grade, but I wanted the additional protection of the Full-SAPS additive package (no LSPI concerns, it's naturally aspirated and port injected). The engine also doesn't fuel dilute, even when short tripped, so I'm not concerned about visc loss (as my UOA's show).

 

[cammyfive79]

Yeah, the truck spec's a 5W-20 (later 0W-20), and the HEMI isn't known for having bottom-end issues on that grade, but I wanted the additional protection of the Full-SAPS additive package (no LSPI concerns, it's naturally aspirated and port injected). The engine also doesn't fuel dilute, even when short tripped, so I'm not concerned about visc loss (as my UOA's show).

My car specs the same - 0W20 - and is also naturally aspirated, port injected, and not known for issues on that grade so I've thought about your blend in the future as well. There are tons of these cars running around with 200, 300, 400K miles on them only using the dealership swill when the OLM says it's due.

 

[Lawnfella]

Supertech. Meets all the specs at a low price. Seems like a no brainer to me

 

[dubber09]

I think best 0W-20 oil is M1 ESP xW-30
Best 0W-16 oil is M1 ESP 0W-20 oil...

 

[Lawnman23]

I agree. I have a clean up test currently in progress with ESP which should be completed by fall. So far it’s promising.

I eagerly await the results of that.

After the VRP runs are done on my Outback, I’m debating what will be my regular oil going forward. I’m mentally down to VRP 5w-30, ESP 0w-30 and M1 0w-40.

 

[Glenda W.]

I eagerly await the results of that.

After the VRP runs are done on my Outback, I’m debating what will be my regular oil going forward. I’m mentally down to VRP 5w-30, ESP 0w-30 and M1 0w-40.

It’s my friends 2015 Forester that I maintain. Heavily varnished from a life of QS Synthetic 0w20. I finally convinced him to change oils after I showed him how clean my internals are. I’ll have before and after pics. Things already looking better after 7k miles.

 

[cammyfive79]

It’s my friends 2015 Forester that I maintain. Heavily varnished from a life of QS Synthetic 0w20. I finally convinced him to change oils after I showed him how clean my internals are. I’ll have before and after pics. Things already looking better after 7k miles.

Is he using ESP or VRP now?

 

[Glenda W.]

Is he using ESP or VRP now?

ESP 0w30.

 

[cammyfive79]

ESP 0w30.

View attachment 277936

I'm pretty much convinced to use this in my wife's CX-90 (in 0W-20 flavor) after the test I'm doing with a 7500 mile interval with HPL Premium 0W-20. Affordable and available in store at my local Walmart with the 229.71 approval that seems to be one of the more stringent ones in a 0W-20.

 

[Glenda W.]

I'm pretty much convinced to use this in my wife's CX-90 (in 0W-20 flavor) after the test I'm doing with a 7500 mile interval with HPL Premium 0W-20. Affordable and available in store at my local Walmart with the 229.71 approval that seems to be one of the more stringent ones in a 0W-20.

That’s exactly what I would use if I had to use a 20 grade.

 

[Sienna dude]

Yeah, the truck spec's a 5W-20 (later 0W-20), and the HEMI isn't known for having bottom-end issues on that grade, but I wanted the additional protection of the Full-SAPS additive package (no LSPI concerns, it's naturally aspirated and port injected). The engine also doesn't fuel dilute, even when short tripped, so I'm not concerned about visc loss (as my UOA's show).

This Hemi is running pretty clean. What is really surprising to me is 5w20 in 2012 Hemi

 

[Sienna dude]

Yeah, the truck spec's a 5W-20 (later 0W-20), and the HEMI isn't known for having bottom-end issues on that grade, but I wanted the additional protection of the Full-SAPS additive package (no LSPI concerns, it's naturally aspirated and port injected). The engine also doesn't fuel dilute, even when short tripped, so I'm not concerned about visc loss (as my UOA's show).

Is it safe to run HPL Super Car 0w20 in my van for 18,000 miles and 3 oil filters?

 

[OVERKILL]

Is it safe to run HPL Super Car 0w20 in my van for 18,000 miles and 3 oil filters?

I would suggest doing UOA's to determine how far you can run it. Our RAM holds 7 quarts of oil, which is quite a bit, and as you have probably heard the old saying: The solution to pollution is dilution.

 

[Sienna dude]

I would suggest doing UOA's to determine how far you can run it. Our RAM holds 7 quarts of oil, which is quite a bit, and as you have probably heard the old saying: The solution to pollution is dilution.

Mine holds 4.8 quarts