Walmart EV Charging Network - Finally Under Construction!

well, if we end up with 100 million electric vehicle cars on the road, we will find out. But I strongly disagree that it will be simple. Never mind the people without the EV may somehow pay with higher electric rates as well.
So they should drive gas cars instead and massively overpay per mile to save your power bill a few bucks? lol
 
So they should drive gas cars instead and massively overpay per mile to save your power bill a few bucks? lol
Absolutely not.
I’m not sure the reference to overpay per mile?

Power bill will not be cheap with 100 million electric vehicles in the country

Or maybe you should save a few bucks and get a gasoline car instead plus you’ll also save on insurance 🤔 does that mean you should overpay for an electric vehicle so you don’t have to buy gas?

I’m not even sure the purpose of your post.
My reply was a comment by somebody else that said we can easily expand the grid to handle 100 million cars

Lots of speculation in here … except for one thing the question is why?
 
Absolutely not.
I’m not sure the reference to overpay per mile?

Power bill will not be cheap with 100 million electric vehicles in the country boy

Or maybe you should save a few bucks and get a gasoline car instead plus you’ll also save on insurance 🤔 does that mean you should overpay for an electric vehicle so you don’t have to buy gas?
I’m not even sure the purpose of your post.
My reply was a comment by somebody else that we can easily expand the grid to handle 100 million cars

Lots of speculation in here except for one thing the question is why
I lowered my monthly expenses by a couple hundred a month by going to an EV. I'm just trying to figure out your reasoning that less people should drive EVs to keep your power bill down even if their choice of an EV overall lowered their expenses. Just looking at it from the other side of the fence.
 
I lowered my monthly expenses by a couple hundred a month by going to an EV. I'm just trying to figure out your reasoning that less people should drive EVs to keep your power bill down even if their choice of an EV overall lowered their expenses. Just looking at it from the other side of the fence.
That is your interpretation of my post which is so far off base that it’s not worth a discussion for me.
We can’t have this discussion until electric vehicles are in significant numbers on the road

In many states in the United States you can’t even have a week of above high temperature weather without electric utilities, asking people to cut down.
OK now put 100 million cars on the road charging up all day and night

Electric vehicles make up less than 5% of the vehicles on the road now multiply that number by 10 times. Which won’t happen in anyone’s lifetime if they’re 40 years old or more.

Peace …
 
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That is your interpretation of my post which is so far off base that it’s not worth a discussion for me.
We can’t have this discussion until electric vehicles are in significant numbers on the road

In many states in the United States you can’t even have a week of above high temperature weather without electric utilities, asking people to cut down.
OK now put 100 million cars on the road charging up all day and night

Electric vehicles make up less than 5% of the vehicles on the road now multiply that number by 10 times. Which won’t happen in anyone’s lifetime if they’re 40 years old or more.

Peace …
Right. That's why I said it. I thought it was odd you mentioned the possibility of your power bill going up for more EVs on the road. It's the same level of speculation I used, only it really lowered my monthly expenses switching to an EV when considering I was going to buy a new car either way. All relative to our needs and experiences.
 
Right. That's why I said it. I thought it was odd you mentioned the possibility of your power bill going up for more EVs on the road. It's the same level of speculation I used, only it really lowered my monthly expenses switching to an EV when considering I was going to buy a new car either way. All relative to our needs and experiences.
You need to go back to post #29 (Feb 2025) and then to #98
You're picking up a conversation that started a long time ago.

Ok, well, if and big if, we ever get 100 million EVs on the road we can talk further. Who will pay to replace gasoline ? The money won't come out of thin air.
When will EVs start paying Federal Road taxes? Sooner or later it will happen.
When will electric rates go up because of demand? Sooner or later it will happen. Heck look at CA already and they are still short on power.

EVs in their current form and pricing cannot stand on their own, I assume now that the taxpayer isn't footing the bill private enterprise will figure a way. They will remain small vehicles unless costs can be cut drastically. Growth is about to slow drastically starting next month. Canada is on the verge of allowing Chinese EVs in .... times are changing, one thing I love is watching change.

I'll say it one last time. I have nothing against EVs but they can't replace all gasoline vehicles in their present form, most of all not all Americans want one. Biggest part of this is there is no reason too. Heck, tell me when a mid size EV SUV cost less than a gasoline version is one example. Your example for you works, both in saving money on gasoline and your hatred for large SUVs... but that is for you, not everyone.

I dont care about the cost of gas however I wouldn't mind a second car being an EV. IF the car cost the same or less than a gasoline and was the same size. Which doesn't exist right now.
 
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You need to go back to post #29 (Feb 2025) and then to #98
You're picking up a conversation that started a long time ago.

Ok, well, if and big if, we ever get 100 million EVs on the road we can talk further. Who will pay to replace gasoline ? The money won't come out of thin air.
When will EVs start paying Federal Road taxes? Sooner or later it will happen.
When will electric rates go up because of demand? Sooner or later it will happen. Heck look at CA already and they are still short on power.

EVs in their current form and pricing cannot stand on their own, I assume now that the taxpayer isn't footing the bill private enterprise will figure a way. They will remain small vehicles unless costs can be cut drastically. Growth is about to slow drastically starting next month. Canada is on the verge of allowing Chinese EVs in .... times are changing, one thing I love is watching change.

I'll say it one last time. I have nothing against EVs but they can't replace all gasoline vehicles in their present form, most of all not all Americans want one. Biggest part of this is there is no reason too. Heck, tell me when a mid size EV SUV cost less than a gasoline version is one example. Your example for you works, both in saving money on gasoline and your hatred for large SUVs... but that is for you, not everyone.

I dont care about the cost of gas however I wouldn't mind a second car being an EV. IF the car cost the same or less than a gasoline and was the same size. Which doesn't exist right now.
I've never once said they should ever replace all gasoline powered vehicles. I don't know why this is such a point of contention. Realistically they can replace 95% of people's use, but in no point in there do I ever say they should be forced to. People will select it on their own if it makes sense to them. All the speculation you mention we'll see, but as power usage increases the grid grows. Everyone worries about if it happens overnight and it just isn't moving like that.

There are plenty of examples where the EV costs the same or less as the equivalent gas option with the same options and obviously still costs less to operate. It's precisely why I own two EVs. Now base car to base car? Probably not. I think performance is a factor there along with included tech.
 
Interesting that the Walmart app is now listing 3rd party charging stations on their property - largely all Electrify America. Rumors were Walmart would be kicking them out, eventually.

Electrify America has been upgrading many older stations, but seemingly none at Walmart. I wonder if they know those contracts will never get extended?

This is the Walmart app:
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I've never once said they should ever replace all gasoline powered vehicles. I don't know why this is such a point of contention. Realistically they can replace 95% of people's use, but in no point in there do I ever say they should be forced to. People will select it on their own if it makes sense to them. All the speculation you mention we'll see, but as power usage increases the grid grows. Everyone worries about if it happens overnight and it just isn't moving like that.

There are plenty of examples where the EV costs the same or less as the equivalent gas option with the same options and obviously still costs less to operate. It's precisely why I own two EVs. Now base car to base car? Probably not. I think performance is a factor there along with included tech.
All good. It’s still begs the question why?
Free choice is better. Based on your post, I assume you agree with that too.

There aren’t any examples of a midsize SUV of the same exact size costing the same or equivalent as gasoline that I know of let’s say at $40,000 or under.
 
All good. It’s still begs the question why?
Free choice is better. Based on your post, I assume you agree with that too.

There aren’t any examples of a midsize SUV of the same exact size costing the same or equivalent as gasoline that I know of let’s say at $40,000 or under.

Prologue starts at $49K. $42K with tax credit. And you can negotiate a few thousand more off. Or buy a one year old used one for under $30K. I’d take that over ANY gas midsized SUV.
 
Prologue starts at $49K. $42K with tax credit. And you can negotiate a few thousand more off. Or buy a one year old used one for under $30K. I’d take that over ANY gas midsized SUV.
Prologue is beautiful, we saw one in the parking lot just yesterday! GM is definitely getting some respect and electric vehicle market, yes, I know the Prologue is a Honda product. In case that is not clearly understood, let me repeat.
The Prologue is a beautiful SUV

Still at the price it can’t match a Chevy Traverse with a 5000 pound tow rating.
And in two weeks, there is no more tax credit 🫤

I’m not sure what I will do in a couple years if we get out of boating

PS!!!! I just checked your statement about used prologues holy smokes I never knew they were so reasonable! Wow! Certainly can’t argue with your reasoning if an electric vehicle fits their needs

Ok… back to the …
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Prologue is beautiful, we saw one in the parking lot just yesterday! GM is definitely getting some respect and electric vehicle market, yes, I know the Prologue is a Honda product. In case that is not clearly understood, let me repeat.
The Prologue is a beautiful SUV

Still at the price it can’t match a Chevy Traverse with a 5000 pound tow rating.
And in two weeks, there is no more tax credit 🫤

I’m not sure what I will do in a couple years if we get out of boating

PS!!!! I just checked your statement about used prologues holy smokes I never knew they were so reasonable! Wow! Certainly can’t argue with your reasoning if an electric vehicle fits their needs

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I mean the only reason I got a Prologue was it was a GM I’d NEVER buy a Honda haha. Too bad it had an early death. It kept my safe though.

Agree it can’t tow but I’d say it does everything else better than a same price similarly size gas counterpart.
 
Looks like Walmart will be doing 10% off charging for Walmart+ members.

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Sounds like Walmart announced a bunch more sites today. Looks like they’re flooding markets like Dallas, Tampa and Phoenix. Lots of other major cities getting 6+ locations.

Insane plans in DFW 🤯🤯
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I stopped at the Walmart in Georgetown, KY to charge yesterday. First time on a level 3 charger in 5,300 miles for me. I was shocked at how expensive it was. Cost me 40 bucks to get 45% of a charge. My previous F-250 was less expensive to fuel up than that. Also, very complicated to figure out how to start a charge session. Took me about 10 minutes to get it going. While I was charging, another guy showed up, couldn't figure it out, and got in his EV and left. Then a third couple showed up and couldn't figure out how to get their car close enough to the charger that the cord would reach. They finally pulled up on the back side of a charger and wrapped the cord around to the rear of their car.

I'm glad that I charge at home 99% of the time. If I had to rely on public charging it would be a deal breaker for me.
 
I stopped at the Walmart in Georgetown, KY to charge yesterday. First time on a level 3 charger in 5,300 miles for me. I was shocked at how expensive it was. Cost me 40 bucks to get 45% of a charge. My previous F-250 was less expensive to fuel up than that. Also, very complicated to figure out how to start a charge session. Took me about 10 minutes to get it going. While I was charging, another guy showed up, couldn't figure it out, and got in his EV and left. Then a third couple showed up and couldn't figure out how to get their car close enough to the charger that the cord would reach. They finally pulled up on the back side of a charger and wrapped the cord around to the rear of their car.

I'm glad that I charge at home 99% of the time. If I had to rely on public charging it would be a deal breaker for me.
Wow. On our car, I just let the car back in. I just have to plug in the charger. $40? Wow. I think the most I've spent is like $9 for 30 minutes at a peak time.
I've never checked out a non-Tesla Supercharger.
 
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I stopped at the Walmart in Georgetown, KY to charge yesterday. First time on a level 3 charger in 5,300 miles for me. I was shocked at how expensive it was. Cost me 40 bucks to get 45% of a charge. My previous F-250 was less expensive to fuel up than that. Also, very complicated to figure out how to start a charge session. Took me about 10 minutes to get it going. While I was charging, another guy showed up, couldn't figure it out, and got in his EV and left. Then a third couple showed up and couldn't figure out how to get their car close enough to the charger that the cord would reach. They finally pulled up on the back side of a charger and wrapped the cord around to the rear of their car.

I'm glad that I charge at home 99% of the time. If I had to rely on public charging it would be a deal breaker for me.
What was the price per kWh?
 
I stopped at the Walmart in Georgetown, KY to charge yesterday. First time on a level 3 charger in 5,300 miles for me. I was shocked at how expensive it was. Cost me 40 bucks to get 45% of a charge. My previous F-250 was less expensive to fuel up than that. Also, very complicated to figure out how to start a charge session. Took me about 10 minutes to get it going. While I was charging, another guy showed up, couldn't figure it out, and got in his EV and left. Then a third couple showed up and couldn't figure out how to get their car close enough to the charger that the cord would reach. They finally pulled up on the back side of a charger and wrapped the cord around to the rear of their car.

I'm glad that I charge at home 99% of the time. If I had to rely on public charging it would be a deal breaker for me.

Georgetown is an Electrify America. Really old equipment there too. EA has upgraded most their equipment nationally - except at Walmarts. Rumor is EA isn’t upgrading these sites because they will get kicked out soon and replaced with Walmart Energy hardware.

Are you an EA Pass+ member? The $7/month membership pays for itself after only about 50kWh/month. I’d look into that. At $40 I’m assuming it was over 50kWh purchased? (Not criticizing, just wanted to give a heads up that there’s ways to make that cheaper)
 
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Georgetown is an Electrify America. Really old equipment there too. EA has upgraded most their equipment nationally - except at Walmarts. Rumor is EA isn’t upgrading these sites because they will get kicked out soon and replaced with Walmart Energy hardware.

Are you an EA Pass+ member? The $7/month membership pays for itself after only about 50kWh/month. I’d look into that. At $40 I’m assuming it was over 50kWh purchased? (Not criticizing, just wanted to give a heads up that there’s ways to make that cheaper)

No, since I've used public charging once in 5,300 miles and don't have any plans to use it unless I have no choice in the future, a membership isn't worth it to me.

But, if ALL Walmarts get level 3 charging this year that could be a game changer.
 
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