Walmart EV Charging Network - Finally Under Construction!

[alarmguy]

So? More apartment renters have access to swimming pools and tennis courts than homeowners. Apartments didn't used to have air conditioning, kitchens, washer and dryers (or connections), cable tv, broadband internet, etc. They got that through market forces and moving trucks. Craigslist now has a hard button option on search for "EV Charging".

Little do you know. A Tesla Wall Connector will manage 4 or 5 on the same circuit. One at a time if need be.

Texas is only out of power due to their horrible "managed free enterprise" distribution, misguided push for wind power, and the banning of purchasing power from out of state.

The verdict is already in. Tesla went from 50% growth three years ago to negative growth in the United States for 2024.

So even though you’re highlighting the possibilities for electric is certainly not even close to “being there” or even the public wanting them for all things in transportation.

I could care less if Texas is out of power, but your statement acknowledges a power issue in this country.
It’s just not Texas. There is major critical thinking taking place in Washington right now how to beef up the power grid so we could support technology companies before China overtakes us.
China is planning 75 nuclear power plants. The United States has trouble building two new ones because for decades now America’s have been irrationally scared nuclear power.

So even Washington is acknowledging we have a power problem and it’s far worse than electric vehicles.
We don’t have enough power for massive server farms that are needed for artificial intelligence before China overtakes us as a world power.
At the same time we’re supposed to have power to charge 300 million vehicles on the road when right now we don’t even charge 3 million vehicles on the road. The other 297 million run on gasoline and a small percentage diesel.

Since you brought up Texas, let’s bring up California, two years ago they were asking people to charge their cars off peak.

On Long Island, New York a couple decades back they spent $5 billion building a nuclear power plant and over $1 billion dismantling it because the public opposition.

In South Carolina that had two brand new nuclear plants being constructed and they after billions spent. It’s still just a hole on the ground because of mismanagement by Westinghouse Toshiba. Now the project completely dead.

My power company in the Carolinas ask us to turn down our thermostat for certain hours during the winter and turn it up certain hours during the summer as most of the country.

Even if we have the power, we then need all new distribution system to distribute it. At least with artificial intelligence, we could put server farms near the actual power plants, but we can’t move communities near the power plants to charge the cars.

I do think at some point some type of alternative to gasoline will come along that is feasible for everybody, but I think we’re about 100 years away from that.

By the way, China is a direct threat to us and we have nothing to combat them with as this artificial intelligence takes off without enough power to power the server farms.

 

[GrumpyCat]

The verdict is already in. Tesla went from 50% growth three years ago to negative growth in the United States for 2024.

Oh boo hoo hoo. You can make up things but not make them come come true.

Tesla's 2024 sales were down 25% vs 2023. But, double it in your retelling, and the next will double your lies.

"Things just happen, what the hell?" -- Terry Pratchett in "Hogfather"

So even though you’re highlighting the possibilities for electric is certainly not even close to “being there” or even the public wanting them for all things in transportation.

Oh. You speak for "The Public". I live in Backwards Alabama and see Teslas everywhere. Is even common to see a Ford Mach-E and occasional Lightning.

I could care less if Texas is out of power, but your statement acknowledges a power issue in this country.

You don't read very well. I didn't say Texas was out of power, I said Texas has totally mismanaged what they have.

It’s just not Texas. There is major critical thinking taking place in Washington right now how to beef up the power grid so we could support technology companies before China overtakes us.

And there lies the problem: the belief that Washington is the source of the solution. You bellyache about EV mandates then turn right around and expect mandates out of Washington to "fix" your problems.

China is planning 75 nuclear power plants. The United States has trouble building two new ones because for decades now America’s have been irrationally scared nuclear power.

Westinghouse-Toshiba is building those nuclear power plants.

So even Washington is acknowledging we have a power problem and it’s far worse than electric vehicles.
We don’t have enough power for massive server farms that are needed for artificial intelligence before China overtakes us as a world power.

The power will be found, if "massive server farms" are beneficial. You mistakenly assume that just because something is a current fad that it is necessary and beneficial.

At the same time we’re supposed to have power to charge 300 million vehicles on the road when right now we don’t even charge 3 million vehicles on the road. The other 297 million run on gasoline and a small percentage diesel.

We still have a surplus of generating capacity at night, the natural time for an EV to charge, at home, at a modest 10kW. What we don't have is capacity to charge at DCFC stations drawing up to 250kW per vehicle, during the day.

Since you brought up Texas, let’s bring up California, two years ago they were asking people to charge their cars off peak.

Everyone with T.O.U. billing is being "asked" to shift electrical consumption to off-peak. Not just EV charging.

On Long Island, New York a couple decades back they spent $5 billion building a nuclear power plant and over $1 billion dismantling it because the public opposition.

This is why we have states, to let individual states implement utterly stupid policies rather than implement nationwide.

In South Carolina that had two brand new nuclear plants being constructed and they after billions spent. It’s still just a hole on the ground because of mismanagement by Westinghouse Toshiba. Now the project completely dead.

Citation needed. The Cherokee Nuclear Power Plant was started in 1970 but never completed. This is talk of starting another nuclear plant in South Carolina but that hasn't started.

My power company in the Carolinas ask us to turn down our thermostat for certain hours during the winter and turn it up certain hours during the summer as most of the country.

When has such not been said?

Even if we have the power, we then need all new distribution system to distribute it. At least with artificial intelligence, we could put server farms near the actual power plants, but we can’t move communities near the power plants to charge the cars.

What facts do you offer other than parroting the media's popular narrative claiming our electrical distribution system is deficient?

I do think at some point some type of alternative to gasoline will come along that is feasible for everybody, but I think we’re about 100 years away from that.

Guess there is no point in trying because it won't work for 100 years yet!

By the way, China is a direct threat to us and we have nothing to combat them with as this artificial intelligence takes off without enough power to power the server farms.

Yeah, right. What if I told you AI has perfected EVs?

 

[97prizm]

After teasing their own massive EV charging network almost 2 years ago, Walmart has now started installing 400kW Alpitronic Hyperchargers in the Dallas area. Sounds like Phoenix area is next.

“Walmart plans to install new electric vehicle (EV) fast-charging stations at thousands of Walmart and Sam’s Club locations across the country”

https://corporate.walmart.com/news/...n-to-expand-electric-vehicle-charging-network

This guy lives near Bentonville and has a new channel tracking the new Walmart charging network.

I wonder how many are going to complain that it isn't free? I'm assuming by now most realize it costs money to charge. I saw one Walmart years ago that had setup charging. I was amused when a Tesla owners then a leaf owner get out and realize it wasn't free. The leaf owner yelled "come on I have to pay for charging? ".

 

[andrew_j]

Maybe this will help my states poor EV charging network. They dragged feet when money was available in NH and challenge is major industry is tourism however charging network is incredibly poor for tourists/common complaint compared to VT and ME. This has been highlighted by Ski NH.

We cater to skiers making sure all highways even during storm are drivable weekends with black pavement so your all-season equipped car gets to mountain. Very evident when you pass the entrance of ski areas as roads turn quite poor.

 

[Torrid]

Maybe this will help my states poor EV charging network. They dragged feet when money was available in NH and challenge is major industry is tourism however charging network is incredibly poor for tourists/common complaint compared to VT and ME. This has been highlighted by Ski NH.

We cater to skiers making sure all highways even during storm are drivable weekends with black pavement so your all-season equipped car gets to mountain. Very evident when you pass the entrance of ski areas as roads turn quite poor.

This definitely should help charger availability in areas with less available chargers. Walmart has everything and it’s a good place to attract travelers.

 

[E365]

Tom Moloughney from State of Charge charging at the first new Walmart charging station in Texas…

Rumors are Walmart will soon be announcing (finally, actually ) a massive charging network with the best charging equipment in the world…. All the latest 1,000v / 600A / 400kW Alpitronic and ABB units. CCS1 and NACS handles.

This will be huge news if 2,500+ Walmarts get 8+ chargers each. Supposed to be announced in the next couple weeks. “Tens of thousands” of chargers is what he was able to leak so far.

Walmart recently updated their app to include a very robust EV charging function. It’ll geofence and pop up as a main option when you open it and it sees you’re near a Walmart charger. Can start and pay for session on the walmart app. They’re definitely prepping for more than the dozen or so under construction right now.

 

[PandaBear]

I wonder how many are going to complain that it isn't free? I'm assuming by now most realize it costs money to charge. I saw one Walmart years ago that had setup charging. I was amused when a Tesla owners then a leaf owner get out and realize it wasn't free. The leaf owner yelled "come on I have to pay for charging? ".

To be fair nobody gives you a lot of free charging other than workplace.

Those free places probably are very slow or they jack up the things they are selling you in the store to make it up.

 

[JeffKeryk]

To be fair nobody gives you a lot of free charging other than workplace.

Those free places probably are very slow or they jack up the things they are selling you in the store to make it up.

Workplaces are generally subsidized, but not free, in my experience. Our Los Gatos library, which is flat-out amazing, has a few free chargers.

 

[E365]

Still kind of light on details, other than “thousands” of stores will get DC Fast chargers. A mix of CCS1 and NACS, but eventually all NACS

Summary at 35:30

 

[Brons2]

Tom Moloughney from State of Charge charging at the first new Walmart charging station in Texas…

Rumors are Walmart will soon be announcing (finally, actually ) a massive charging network with the best charging equipment in the world…. All the latest 1,000v / 600A / 400kW Alpitronic and ABB units. CCS1 and NACS handles.

This will be huge news if 2,500+ Walmarts get 8+ chargers each. Supposed to be announced in the next couple weeks. “Tens of thousands” of chargers is what he was able to leak so far.

Walmart recently updated their app to include a very robust EV charging function. It’ll geofence and pop up as a main option when you open it and it sees you’re near a Walmart charger. Can start and pay for session on the walmart app. They’re definitely prepping for more than the dozen or so under construction right now.

This may actually be one I use as we have long time friends (30+ years) that live in McKinney and I usually have to drive back into town to charge.