VW 508 Spec 0w20 Updates?

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VW says the new BUDACK cycle engine's oil pump was specifically designed to run only 0w20 in their tech videos and says running thicker oil in this engine will cause damage. thats coming from from VW mouth
 
Originally Posted by dedonderosa
VW says the new BUDACK cycle engine's oil pump was specifically designed to run only 0w20 in their tech videos and says running thicker oil in this engine will cause damage. thats coming from from VW mouth

It would be interesting to see those videos. So does it get damaged every morning when you start the car?
 
Originally Posted by dedonderosa
VW says the new BUDACK cycle engine's oil pump was specifically designed to run only 0w20 in their tech videos and says running thicker oil in this engine will cause damage. thats coming from from VW mouth


The Turbo version isn't the Budack cycle is it? ( Atlas version)
Isn't that the low horse normally aspirated mill?
 
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by dedonderosa
VW says the new BUDACK cycle engine's oil pump was specifically designed to run only 0w20 in their tech videos and says running thicker oil in this engine will cause damage. thats coming from from VW mouth

It would be interesting to see those videos. So does it get damaged every morning when you start the car?


Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Also what happens if someone uses what would be referred to as a "Thick 20" versus a "Thin 30".
 
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by dedonderosa
VW says the new BUDACK cycle engine's oil pump was specifically designed to run only 0w20 in their tech videos and says running thicker oil in this engine will cause damage. thats coming from from VW mouth

It would be interesting to see those videos. So does it get damaged every morning when you start the car?


Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Also what happens if someone uses what would be referred to as a "Thick 20" versus a "Thin 30".


If VW standardized their oil to our API specs, life would be a heck of a lot easier and I imagine sales would skyrocket as well.
 
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by dedonderosa
VW says the new BUDACK cycle engine's oil pump was specifically designed to run only 0w20 in their tech videos and says running thicker oil in this engine will cause damage. thats coming from from VW mouth

It would be interesting to see those videos. So does it get damaged every morning when you start the car?


Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Also what happens if someone uses what would be referred to as a "Thick 20" versus a "Thin 30".


Lets look up the oil pump part number for the USA vs the world...…….
 
The new style engine that requires 0w20 uses a new oil pump design and a has 22 teeth gears vs 24 teeth for higher ratio and faster build up of oil pressure
 
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Originally Posted by dedonderosa
The new style engines uses a new oil pump design and a has 22 teeth gears vs 24 teeth for higher ratio and faster build up of oil pressure


Is all of this done to get a few extra mpg's?
If so at what cost? Thanks!
 
Originally Posted by dedonderosa
ill see what other info i can find


Thank you.
The issue I have is what are the dealers actually putting in these cars at the dealership.
Most you talk to evade the ?
 
well as long as you have a good dealer and good techs who know what is suppose to go in the cars you shouldn't have an issue with getting the correct oil.

im not sure how many dealers have this in bulk containers yet, but i know there are a lot of dealers who only have it in bottles, so the parts dept should know what oil the cars get along with the techs when doing the oil changes
 
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Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by StevieC
20 weights are evil you should run a 30 or thicker according to some on here, that's probably why you haven't gotten a response in 10 hours.

I would be interested to know the answer though.
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More talk about 508.00 in this thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4672060/VW_508_Spec-0w20

Of course you should. Same engines are designed first and foremost around 5W40 oils. They are still recommended to use ACEA C3 in EU and ACEA A3/B3 B4 in Russia, Ukraine and other former Soviet Republics as well as rest of the world.
Now, only reason why VW moved to 0W20 in the US is CAFE and aiming most of their line up to soccer moms.


VW and Volvo(new models), recommed 0w-20 in EU
 
Originally Posted by dedonderosa
well as long as you have a good dealer and good techs who know what is suppose to go in the cars you shouldn't have an issue with getting the correct oil.

im not sure how many dealers have this in bulk containers yet, but i know there are a lot of dealers who only have it in bottles, so the parts dept should know what oil the cars get along with the techs when doing the oil changes



Thank you my friend!!!!
Very informative!
 
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by StevieC
20 weights are evil you should run a 30 or thicker according to some on here, that's probably why you haven't gotten a response in 10 hours.

I would be interested to know the answer though.
thumbsup2.gif


More talk about 508.00 in this thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4672060/VW_508_Spec-0w20

Of course you should. Same engines are designed first and foremost around 5W40 oils. They are still recommended to use ACEA C3 in EU and ACEA A3/B3 B4 in Russia, Ukraine and other former Soviet Republics as well as rest of the world.
Now, only reason why VW moved to 0W20 in the US is CAFE and aiming most of their line up to soccer moms.


That's what I've been saying, the owner's manual is written 50% by engineers, 40% by the marketing people and 10% by CAFE
 
My dealer uses the right oil.

I know this is not my thread, but can I ask that we drop the viscosity argument? I don't much care for 0W20 either but most people simply shouldn't take the economic risk on fairly expensive cars by not using what the manufacturer specs and get denied a warranty claim. So within that requirement, we would just like to know what the best oil is? Does anyone know much about the add packs of Ineo or LiquiMoly?
 
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