Valvoline Synchromesh MTF?

[sledgebeast]

Thank You, Finally some useful information! Not just useless opinions. You know the old saying!
Now as far as wrong forums. That comes off as somewhat bias to me, without knowing what forums I've posted on.
Again I posted in this forum in a thread specifically Titled Valvoline Syncromesh MTF. Trying to get
useful information about Valvoline Syncromesh MTF. Sorry for wanting real information on a specific brand.
Not someone just telling me what I should do?. Like the BMW Guy at the local Stealership did!

Actually your chart did solidify my decision to use this product. I was looking to go slightly higher viscosity than
what I had been using. As many people do go up in viscosity on older equipment with higher miles and likely
increased tolerances do to wear. For example when someone decides to go up from 10w-30 to 10w-40 on an
older engine.

 

[kschachn]

Ahha more carping about the members of this board. I tell you, sometimes new members are the worst at that.

So what is the specification in your manual? Maybe you missed my post asking about that.

 

[sledgebeast]

Nope not "the members" or "the board" but your the one who keeps trolling & immediately posting after me.
I came here for useful information. Not to have the last post every time. But obcourse you will do it again! See Below...
Anyway this I've found specifically about Valvoline Syncromax. Does not apply to the Pro GL-5 version...


Directly from Valvoline...

To meet API GL-4 standards, we produce the Valvoline Synchromesh Fluid (part number 811095). The Synchromesh product is 100% safe and compatible to metals used in GL-4 applications.

Yes The correct fluid for your transmission will be our Valvoline Synchromesh fluid 811095. This is an API GL-4 rated gear fluid, safe for use on soft yellow metals.

Valvoline also states:
It's compatible with BMW MTF-LT-1, MTF-LT-2, MTF-LT-3, and more
Valvoline's "Manual Transmission Fluid Application Guide" (2013) states that it is compatible with these fluids, which are used in various BMW M models with traditional manual gear boxes (non-sequential).


And these VIS numbers differ slightly from the chart above
I am wondering if the vis @ 100c of 9 - 9.5 was taken from the Professional version of the oil.

Valvoline SYNCHROMESH Manual Transmission Fluid 811095

Vis @ 100°C (cSt)
8.8
Vis @ 40°C (cSt)
49.9
Viscosity Index
157
Spec Gravity @ 60°F
0.872
Density (lbs/gal)
7.27
Flash COC (°C)
201
Pour Point (°C) , max
-42
Phosphorus, wt.%
0.14
Sulfur, wt.%
Zinc, wt%
.35
.11


I Did not Guess... I researched the vehicle and transmission as much as possible. Back then when I went with RP Syn...
The "old" spec on the Getrag 250 was to use Dexron II/III ATF. The "new" spec (late E36, E46) is to use the BMW "MTF-LT-1" or "MTF-LT-2

 

[MolaKule]

Originally Posted by sledgebeast
Thank You, Finally some useful information! Not just useless opinions. You know the old saying!
Now as far as wrong forums. That comes off as somewhat bias to me, without knowing what forums I've posted on.


From our experience, people come here from other internet sites with so much misinformation it takes awhile to sort it all out.

Originally Posted by sledgebeast
Again I posted in this forum in a thread specifically Titled Valvoline Syncromesh MTF. Trying to get
useful information about Valvoline Syncromesh MTF. Sorry for wanting real information on a specific brand.
Not someone just telling me what I should do?. Like the BMW Guy at the local Stealership did!


You post, you get responses. You ask a question but you can't pick and choose responses.

Originally Posted by sledgebeast
Actually your chart did solidify my decision to use this product. I was looking to go slightly higher viscosity than what I had been using.


Again, you have been requested to quote your owner's manual MTF specification (which you have not done), but you stated in your original post you only 'guessed' at what the OEM MTF was. Analyzing the OEM fluid (UOA) or a VOA of clean fluid from a bottle of the OEM fluid is a sure fire way to determine the viscosity.

Originally Posted by sledgebeast
As many people do go up in viscosity on older equipment with higher miles and likely
increased tolerances do to wear. For example when someone decides to go up from 10w-30 to 10w-40 on an
older engine.


Simply increasing the viscosity of an MTF as your transmission wears does NOT guarantee your shifting will be improved, so this forced analogy does not hold.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted by sledgebeast
Nope not "the members" or "the board" but your the one who keeps trolling & immediately posting after me.
I came here for useful information. Not to have the last post every time. But obcourse you will do it again!

If you can reference the posts where I trolled you then I'll apologize for it. I don't see where I did that in this thread but let me know.