Yes , easy fall back to suggest OEM OCI , so I’ll just select the “normal” driving OCI of 7,500 miles for my Theta II engine and see how well I do ? … Sarcasm aside - vehicle makers are in the business to sell new vehicles and / or make it through the warranty period - that’s all . Therefore if you plan to keep your ride longer than 100K miles then choosing <5,000 mile / 6 month OCI’s with a good synthetic oil such as VR&P is your friend. Professional repair shop videos , online vehicle blogs , etc. are now rethinking longer OCI’s in favor of the “new normal” of the 5K mile max / 6 month OCI to keep engine internals cleaner with less deposits .
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Good points. I'll add some mfgs. are rethinking viscosity too, as in "thicker." GM comes to mind in a recent thread here.
So 7.5k is too much, do you want Valvoline to say it's a 5k oil? that doesn't make it look good either does it? Maybe a 10k oil? but you say 7.5k is too much already? If 7.5k is too much, that's on the manufacturer .
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VRP won't be my regular oil but if I was concerned about how long it could last if it was, I would do a UOA and find out.
That said, if my oil consumption issues are caused by engine wear ( versus piston deposits ) , why would I worry if VRP is suitable for regular use considering I used top tier oils and have oil consumption issues probably caused by engine wear.
That said, if my oil consumption issues are caused by engine wear ( versus piston deposits ) , why would I worry if VRP is suitable for regular use considering I used top tier oils and have oil consumption issues probably caused by engine wear.
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I like A for gas and B for OCI. That way if I see the gas mileage down I can assume something funky is happening somewhere. But a C for tires would be nice.
I agree. I know it's not scientific, and @kschachn will blast us, but my vehicles do seem to run quieter on VRP.
Mine too. Coming from M1 0w-40, much quieter. However, I just switched to HPL and it is just as quiet and even quieter than R&P at high RPMs. I put it down to either the viscosity or the moly. The moly is pretty stout in R&P too.
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I like A for OCI in my Civic because my car will save the history of all of the previous three resets:
Toyota is telling new car owners that an OCI of 10k miles on 0W-16 oil in their 2.5 liter hybrid and non- hybrid engines is their recommended service interval for " non-sever service" vehicles. 5k miles for the vehicles in their definition of sever service conditions. They even provide 2 " free" oil and filter changes in the first 2 years or 25k miles at the stealership with their oil filters and whatever oil - OW-16 or 0W-20 that the service manager decides is their least expensive option. This is what was told to me, by the service advisors and the service manager prior to purchasing my 2025 RAV4 XLE at the end of March. I will err on the side of doing the 5K service interval due to lots of time idling in traffic just as I did with a 2023 RAV4 LE. 5 different oil changes using VRP varying in length from 4800 to 6200 miles with the '23 to finish the break in process of the engine and to get the silicon levels in the oil to get into a " decent" range. The 5W-30 VRP and CarQuest Premium filters helped that process immensely. The UOA done on the 6200K miles oil still showed to have plenty of life in it at that interval. So, I know, at least in my application of 50/50 highway and city driving, it held up. I would be more willing to use the VRP for a 10k OCI than the TGMO for any mileage beyond 5k.
But will stick with 5k mile OCIs on the VRP, since the vehicle has less than 2500 miles on it currently.
Wow. And I thought my 2012 Civic was above and beyond at 38mpg sustained highway. Don't ever sell yours.
I do every other oil change for tire rotation .
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I’m constantly amazed at how easy it is to average great MPG in this Civic. My 2006 Civic was nowhere near this 2016. The CVT makes a world of difference because it allows the engine to rev a lot lower than the 1.8 with the 5 speed auto in my 2006.
Friends' fuel efficiency experiences with CVTs in Mitsubishi products BLEW THEM AWAY.
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Thats why I started using the Fit ( CVT ) versus my Civic ( MT ) for the bulk of my driving after gas prices went up a lot several years ago.
I can afford the gas but it made me mad giving the gov't tax money on top of tax money with car gas.
Love the CVT in the FIT.
I rotate every 5k. Easy to remember, on the 5s and 0s.
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I never rotate my tires and I got 63,000 miles out of my last set on the Civic with probably 25-30% tread left on them still. If you drive gently like me and don’t brake hard then tires will wear out at the exact same rate on all four corners.
That’s one heck of a alignment!!
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The amazing thing is that I don’t think it has ever had an alignment and it has 272,000 km on it right now. When I bought my last tires they did an alignment check and it was perfect. They were bummed because they always try to upsell alignments
That's really impressive life. However, I still see a lot of tires at stoplights and in parking lots with worn shoulders in the front and pristine tires in the back. And when I take my car in and get them rotated and balanced, they usually find 2-4 tires that need to be rebalanced. Seems worth it to me.
Edit: and on the last car I sold, I barely squeaked by with my remaining tread life when I sold it. They would have lowered my sale price significantly if I needed tires. So I think for me, it saved me buying a new set of tires. I try to take really good care of them. I adjust the pressure monthly or so and rotate and balance every 5k.
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