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VRP is intended for cleaning, not extended OCIs. It's a slowly help fix-it oil.
Stick with either 3-4-5k OCIs, for best results.
Stick with either 3-4-5k OCIs, for best results.
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I know I’m going to get flamed for this but I really like LiquiMoly MoS2 additive. A lot. I put it in everything. I swear the stuff works.
But, is there any possibility it affects the cleaning ability of R&P?
But, is there any possibility it affects the cleaning ability of R&P?
It fights for surface affinity. No point in an antiwear(?) focused additive when the goal of use with VRP is cleaning. At a minimum, it could reduce its effectiveness. To what degree, no way to know.
How does it work?
Well yes it is available just not in the format you expect , 5 gallon , 18 liter containers.
https://pasuper.com/piece/products/906537?
Also found the same PN in a Car-quest Canada catalogue from a chain in Ontario.
https://davenports.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/on-hand-advantage-2025.pdf
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Everything I’ve put it in gets measurably better fuel economy.
I rebuilt an engine that had been using it and it spun over easier with the cylinder head off than any time before I had an engine like that apart and spun it over. I know that’s not a fair comparison because I’m comparing two different engines but they’re the same engine in manufacturer, displacement and design so I am used to feeling the similarities between them.
I’ve heard of the stuff, but never really thought much of it.
I see advertisements saying how it cleans and such… you know, it does what oil does. I hope all previous Valvoline products have been doing this.
This is like a water bottling company bragging about their new water being able to keep one hydrated.
I see advertisements saying how it cleans and such… you know, it does what oil does. I hope all previous Valvoline products have been doing this.
This is like a water bottling company bragging about their new water being able to keep one hydrated.
Since Moly is a coating product and VRP is a cleaning product, logic would have it that they may complete for space or cancel each other out. I would only use one. Ideally, get the engine sparkling clean, then use the moly.
FWIW - I tried the MoS2 additive in a bunch of vehicles and really wanted to like it. But I found no discernable difference in noise, heat, fuel mileage or power. Even after using it for multiple OCIs. I gave up on it.
FWIW - I tried the MoS2 additive in a bunch of vehicles and really wanted to like it. But I found no discernable difference in noise, heat, fuel mileage or power. Even after using it for multiple OCIs. I gave up on it.
CHeck out some of the UOAs for VRP and ask yourself how much better an additive could really make them. The UOAs I've seen a pretty dang impressive and don't leave much room for an additive to "fix" anything.
https://www.patentguru.com/search?q...PWTjlzBm-KNHW3clEQ_aem_NIIYQtJc0bszn_Dj6Le_BQ
Abstract: The present disclosure relates to heavy duty crankcase lubricating oil compositions achieving high piston cleanliness of steel piston pursuant to the OM471 piston cleanliness test using a detergent system of sulfonate soap and dispersant system of one or more polyisobutylene succinimide dispersants to the lubricating oil composition.
Abstract: The present disclosure relates to heavy duty crankcase lubricating oil compositions achieving high piston cleanliness of steel piston pursuant to the OM471 piston cleanliness test using a detergent system of sulfonate soap and dispersant system of one or more polyisobutylene succinimide dispersants to the lubricating oil composition.
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I am currently on 2500km with VRP 5W30. I noticed one thing odd. After not driven the car for some time like 2 weeks, when I check the oil on the dipstick, the oil is super black. I then wipe the dipstick and put it back, and pull it again, the oil is honey colored. Other oils do this also, but the first check is not as black is VRP. But the question is why is the oil on the dipstick black after sitting for some time, then when I reinsert its not black anymore ?
I went ahead and changed my oil without the MoS2 additive. I need to see if I need to get the pistons replaced before my warranty runs out.
I never thought of my engine as “abnormally loud” but it is so quiet on R&P I can hear the supercharger and turbocharger spinning up during their respective “stages” and I never noticed it before.
Maybe R&P has enough moly on its own haha
I think it does. Eventhough it is 5W30 my engine sounds better than with 5W-40
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!https://www.patentguru.com/search?q...PWTjlzBm-KNHW3clEQ_aem_NIIYQtJc0bszn_Dj6Le_BQ
Abstract: The present disclosure relates to heavy duty crankcase lubricating oil compositions achieving high piston cleanliness of steel piston pursuant to the OM471 piston cleanliness test using a detergent system of sulfonate soap and dispersant system of one or more polyisobutylene succinimide dispersants to the lubricating oil composition.
Yes, interesting. But it says steel pistons. Most cars nowadays have aluminum pistons with " additives" usually thermally sprayed on the skirts.
Just an observation.
Patman
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Here’s my latest update on how VRP is doing in my Civic. Before I started using VRP my Civic was consuming about 500ml every 8000 km. I’m most of the way through my second interval with it and over the past 3800km I have only needed to add 100ml of oil. So it’s cut my consumption by more than half after using it for just over 16,000km. I’m going to do one more 10,000 km interval and then I’m switching over to ESP x2 0w20.
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So I’m curious, why not stick with VRP?
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Because it’s not available in Canada and even when I cross the border into Niagara Falls NY they don’t stock it in the closest Walmart and even when I drive an extra 40 minutes I have had a hard time finding it in the other Walmart there. The last time I crossed the border I ended up having to get it at Autozone and it was almost $40 (about $60 CDN)
I can get ESP here for $43 CDN. And I’m still not convinced that VRP is the right choice for doing 10,000 mile intervals. I feel like it’s more of a 5-6k oil. For me I’m happy that it’s achieved what I wanted, a very good reduction in consumption. If ESP 0w20 doesn’t keep the consumption at the same lower level I can always switch back to VRP later.
I saw a sign at a carwash / detailer in Cambridge (Ont) last week advertising VRP oil changes. Word is on the street!Because it’s not available in Canada and even when I cross the border into Niagara Falls NY they don’t stock it in the closest Walmart and even when I drive an extra 40 minutes I have had a hard time finding it in the other Walmart there. The last time I crossed the border I ended up having to get it at Autozone and it was almost $40 (about $60 CDN)
For me I’m happy that it’s achieved what I wanted, a very good reduction in consumption. If ESP 0w20 doesn’t keep the consumption at the same lower level I can always switch back to VRP later.
I priced VRP shipped in from RockAuto about a month ago and it was about $70-75 a gal all in. :/
I am loving
Any seal leaks in anything yet?
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