For original vehicle owners who use a quality synthetic oil running conservative OCI’s - might Valvoline R&P be a solution looking for a problem ? I would fall into that category plus before Valvoline R&P came along I used Rislone R&P engine cleaner approx. every 3rd oil change . Still , I’d be willing to switch to Valvoline R&P - if I knew more about wear protection , ability to stay in grade , NOACK and other attributes of Valvoline R&P (outside of cleaning ability) .
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That's probably the case for a lot of people. You can't clean what's clean. As an example it could explain why you'll see dissected filters with no bits of carbon from some people, and others have it. Having said that based on what I've been reading here R&P is another good oil for cleaning for engines that need cleaning.
IMO it’s engine dependent. I ran 5k oci’s with high quality synthetic oil and still got stuck oil control rings. Outside of R&P’s piston cleaning ability there’s nothing I’d seek it out for.
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They are terrible at answering emails now! When VRP first came out I emailed them and they responded an hour or two later! At that time they didn’t know when or if it was coming to Canada. I tried emailing them again recently and got nothing.
The Valvoline Fast Lube location here in Guelph started offering oil changes with VRP a few months ago though so I take that as a good sign. In the meantime I will just keep buying it across the border in Niagara Falls NY
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That’s the global site. If you get to the Canadian site it doesn’t show VRP at all.
That’s not the Canadian site
What oil did you use?
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I just wanted to ask a question. I’ve ran 4 ocis and have shown how it cleaned my valve cover area. The first 3 runs were 0w-20 and this run was 5w-30 and when I drained it at 5500 miles it had thickened a lot. Is this normal? I didn’t experience this with the 0w20 runs.
How do you know it thickened? Thru a UOA?
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Good question. It just came out this afternoon.
Visible inspection and flow when draining and during inspection in drain pan. It was definitely thicker when poured or ran between fingers but not enough for me to be extremely concerned.
I’m under the impression it would be from the carbon suspended in oil.
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The thicker viscosity pulled the carbon easier and held it in suspension better.
Sounds like a good guess to me.
Sounds like a good guess to me.
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Quite likely. Was just curious what everyone thought. Didn’t seem to be as much of the carbon thick oil draining from the filter like there was with the 0w20 so the idea that the 5w-30 holds more carbon in suspension seems plausible but hard to confirm.
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In 2k miles I’ll be posting my R&P final results after 4 oci’s with all the details.
This was linked on Drive Accord from "I do Cars" teardown of a Honda 2.0 turbo from an Accord and OP asked if VRP might have helped. To me as maybe a bit more than mild OCD, the cleanliness of everything at 94K goes toward @Glenda W. with why were the oil control rings stuck?
Exactly what I’m dealing with. Spotless internals with stuck rings. Thanks for the vid.
He must hate hoses ... removes a hose from a pipe, then cuts the hose after it's already been removed, lol.
The messed up stuck rings also caused lots of oil burning ... plugs and turbo exhaust side are trashed with oil.
Good video. Great example where the engine was in great shape except for the rings. Would be perfect engine for VRP.
Without a teardown that is impossible to verify and that sucks. Getting to heavily reduced oil burning would be about it. With everything else that clean why would the oil control rings stick that bad? Would thicker viscosity oils make that worse (harder to flow through/drain)?
I look forward to your end results and details of prior OTS oils used as well as OCI's.
Then on the BITOG bingo would HPL or whichever version Amsoil maybe help prevent that over the OTS versions? Our "normal" evaluations here at BITOG in my opinion are just like the video. Spotless, no junk, sludge or varnish under valve cover or even oil pan = happy and we've done great with maintenance. Things like this, bearing issues, Hyundai/KIA issues is just depressing for me.
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