Valvoline Restore & Protect

[irollo]

No different than any other marketing for virtually everything sold to the public ... Valvoline isn't breaking any new ground there, lol. But as seen in this thread and many other places on the internet, there is proof it actually works for most. So people should make up their mind based on people's feedback who have actually used it instead of jumping to conclusions based on "marketing".

Marketing is everywhere. Anytime you have a choice, marketing is right there next to you. In fact we're unwittingly doing Valvoline's marketing for them right now by growing a search result hit creating brand awareness. Cool huh?

 

[OilStainedNapkin]

Lol I just noticed that. It means nothing.

Their claims are based off their testing that they performed. Claims are claims, not guarantees. However, with a big name, I don’t think they want to risk their reputation. We’ve already seen positive reports pouring in here and elsewhere.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Marketing is everywhere. Anytime you have a choice, marketing is right there next to you. In fact we're unwittingly doing Valvoline's marketing for them right now by growing a search result hit creating brand awareness. Cool huh?

It is cool. What else is there beyond the marketing claims except for people's actual experience using a product? What do you base your choice of products on ... chicken bones and tarot cards? Or do you perform your own multi-million dollar test program?

 

[PhilloBeddow]

That oil consumption is caused by something beside stuck rings if it's been doing it since new.

You’re right, but as they say on NPR, there’s always more to the story.

I had the short block replacement at 53000 miles under warranty because of oil consumption that was excessive even to Subaru. So the piston rings have ~43000 miles on them. Oil consumption isn’t awful now but it’s measurable and I have to keep an eye on it.

I retired a few years ago and my annual mileage is now about half what it used to be and also closer to severe operating conditions around town but the occasional road trip into Ohio or Tennessee.

My hope for VRP is that it will free up the piston rings and get me best-case oil consumption. What that will be in top-up quarts per OCI remains to be seen. I’m using the factory specified 0W-20 for the first few OCIs to get a benchmark of oil consumption and then I’ll switch to VRP 5W-30. If I can get to 5000 miles without the level dropping below L on the dipstick I’ll be happy.

To get to the owners manual 7500 mile OCI probably ain’t gonna happen but I can dream…

 

[PhilloBeddow]

Marketing wording is always done carefully by all oil sellers, for a good reasons. For instance, if Valvoline claimed it was going to cure oil burning and someone's car is burning oil caused by something besides gummed up stuck rings and VRP doesn't cure some mechanical oil burning reason (like broken rings, scuffed up cylinders, bad valve guide seals, etc), then the people using the oil are going to claim it doesn't stop oil burning. Then it grows legs and the internet is full of false information by users.

Valvoline however does say it will clean existing piston deposits. And anyone that knows anything about ICE and that stuck piston rings pretty much leads to oil burning will put 2+2 together and understand that if it will clean pistons and rings then it will most likely help the oil burning issue if that's the cause of someone's engine burning oil.

Completely agree. I used to be a product manager and would very often be asked to review and approve marketing text. On the one hand you want to present your product in the best possible light and on the other you can’t say things that are demonstrably untrue.

On the third hand you can also tell the unvarnished truth like Dudley Moore does when he goes off the rails in Crazy People (1990 movie).

His advertising slogans for Jaguar and Volvo are the stuff of legend.

https://www.reddit.com/r/****ImOld/comments/1gzkpdw/the_1990_jaguar_advertising_campaign/

 

[cheesepuffs2]

It’s confusing because it should not take 4 intervals to clean up the engine if you are doing 10k intervals. Why would one engine need 40,000 miles to clean up and another only 12,000 miles just because the manufacturer has a different OCI? Think about that one.

Obviously a very dirty engine is going to take longer but Valvoline must have a rough idea about how long it typically takes in total miles. And I doubt that too many engines would take 40,000 miles to clean up. If they were that dirty they probably wouldn’t even still be running.

What is Valvoline supposed to say though, "cleans in four 5,000 miles intervals"? Then when somebody doesn't have reduced oil burning until 30,000 miles they'll claim the product doesn't work as advertised. They need to be relatively vague for this entire marketing push to be a success.

 

[THORROMIG]

I think it's just a guidance than some hard requirement of 4 oil changes. My car was burning a quart every 1K miles and it took just two VRP oil changes of 5K each and it seems to have completely stopped at 156K miles. I could probably switch to another oil at this point till I notice the oil level dropping again.

I'm still going to continue using it just because it worked so well though. Of course, it helps that I always did 5K oil changes since new so the engine was pretty clean and the only issue was stuck piston rings.

That was a big first post, you "really" have a liking for the Valvoline Restore & Protect? Maybe I should try this magic soon.

 

[OilStainedNapkin]

Nobody wants clean pistons because they look pretty…..

Tbh I dont think the vast majority of the public understands what the internals of an engine do. Just like how tons of people don’t know the components within their fuel system yet use products like Techron. So they hear “clean engine” and that draws them in

 

[The Critic]

To get to the owners manual 7500 mile OCI probably ain’t gonna happen but I can dream…

OCI was reduced to 6 months or 6K for all models. I plan to service the one in my signature every 3K to minimize the likelihood of developing oil consumption issues.

 

[demarpaint]

Genius by Valvoline. Desperate or curious owners of oil burners put 5 quarts of Valvoline in, engine burns 1 quart, go buy one more quart of Vavoline, burns another quart, buy another quart of Vavoline, burns another quart. Time for an oil change. Valvoline says it might take 4 oil changes. Buy 5 more quarts of Valvoline.

Not to say oil burners don't need to buy oil but Valvoline has created a nice funnel. Interestingly nowhere do they advertise this specific oil aids in reducing oil consumption. It's a successful product (for them) no matter what. Genius.

Just one of their product pages
https://www.valvolineglobal.com/en/blog/product/restore-protect-motor-oil-explained/

The same can be said for any oil or additive that makes claims of cleaning engines, ring packs, etc. or whatever marketing they use. Bottom line is there are people reporting good results here.

 

[SimpleSyrup]

In before the thread gets locked.

The same can be said for any oil or additive that makes claims of cleaning engines, ring packs, etc. or whatever marketing they use. Bottom line is there are people reporting good results here.

Not a fan of the marketing for VRP because it seems sleezy. But did have good luck using it. Lower oil consumption: 1qt/1k to .5 qt in 2k. MPG from 20 to 21 over 5k miles, same driving, same route. This is after one 5k oci.

 

[4WD]

Genius by Valvoline. Desperate or curious owners of oil burners put 5 quarts of Valvoline in, engine burns 1 quart, go buy one more quart of Vavoline, burns another quart, buy another quart of Vavoline, burns another quart. Time for an oil change. Valvoline says it might take 4 oil changes. Buy 5 more quarts of Valvoline.

Not to say oil burners don't need to buy oil but Valvoline has created a nice funnel. Interestingly nowhere do they advertise this specific oil aids in reducing oil consumption. It's a successful product (for them) no matter what. Genius.

Just one of their product pages
https://www.valvolineglobal.com/en/blog/product/restore-protect-motor-oil-explained/

Not many projected it’s success (contrary)… but novel OTC motor oils that failed were priced too high for oil burners to consider …

 

[4WD]

Marketing is everywhere. Anytime you have a choice, marketing is right there next to you. In fact we're unwittingly doing Valvoline's marketing for them right now by growing a search result hit creating brand awareness. Cool huh?

As the Pennzoil banner adorns the top of my new iPad screen

 

[cheesepuffs2]

As the Pennzoil banner adorns the top of my new iPad screen

How do we know this post isn't guerrilla marketing for Apple?

 

[demarpaint]

In before the thread gets locked.

Not a fan of the marketing for VRP because it seems sleezy. But did have good luck using it. Lower oil consumption: 1qt/1k to .5 qt in 2k. MPG from 20 to 21 over 5k miles, same driving, same route. This is after one 5k oci.

I'm not a fan either, but this is a product I will probably try at some point, if they offer it in XW40, or maybe a Euro XW30. There's a lot of "sleezy" marketing in the automotive and oil industries. VRP seems to have some merit, in spite of their marketing.

 

[Duukt]

That was a big first post, you "really" have a liking for the Valvoline Restore & Protect? Maybe I should try this magic soon.

I was a bit excited when I made this post as this was something I managed to fix with no suggestions or feedback from the mechanics I contacted about this problem. Whenever I brought it up to a mechanic, I usually got a blank stare or suggestions like "time to get a new car", "new engine", "used engine" etc. For some reason they did not suggest an engine flush at any place that I contacted or even something like HPL. Maybe that's just the state of mechanics on Long Island but I was researching a replacement car when I ran across VRP while searching for oil burning issues on other engines.

It was my final attempt at fixing the oil burning issue on my car (2007 Lexus GS350) which burned through almost a quart in a 300 mile highway trip at 125K miles. I tried switching to full synthetic, MMO conventional + synthetic and a few BGR additives and it had essentially plateaued at 1000 miles / quart.

I took the VRP to my mechanic each time and had him do the oil change. My progression went as follows with a top off after each check:
First oil change
First 1K miles = 1 quart
Next 1K miles = 1 quart
Next 1K miles = about .4 quart
Next 2K miles = about .6 quart

Second oil change
First 1K miles = about .2 quart
Next 1K miles = about .2 quart
Next 1K miles = 1 mm drop in level (did not try to top it off)
Next 2K miles = seems to be no change

Right now the oil is basically a dark honey color but still looks clear.

It seems like a lot of people are treating it more like an engine flush rather than a regular oil. Some posts and youtube videos have people swapping filters or performing oil changes after every 500 miles etc. I only had the oil change done and kept monitoring it every 1K when possible and topping it off to subdue the low oil alert. One wild-assed guess I'm going to make is the 4 oil changes requirement might be to ensure that people who do 3K oil changes still manage to use the oil for over 10K miles.

 

[Patrick0525]

I was a bit excited when I made this post as this was something I managed to fix with no suggestions or feedback from the mechanics I contacted about this problem. Whenever I brought it up to a mechanic, I usually got a blank stare or suggestions like "time to get a new car", "new engine", "used engine" etc. For some reason they did not suggest an engine flush at any place that I contacted or even something like HPL. Maybe that's just the state of mechanics on Long Island but I was researching a replacement car when I ran across VRP while searching for oil burning issues on other engines.

It was my final attempt at fixing the oil burning issue on my car (2007 Lexus GS350) which burned through almost a quart in a 300 mile highway trip at 125K miles. I tried switching to full synthetic, MMO conventional + synthetic and a few BGR additives and it had essentially plateaued at 1000 miles / quart.

I took the VRP to my mechanic each time and had him do the oil change. My progression went as follows with a top off after each check:
First oil change
First 1K miles = 1 quart
Next 1K miles = 1 quart
Next 1K miles = about .4 quart
Next 2K miles = about .6 quart

Second oil change
First 1K miles = about .2 quart
Next 1K miles = about .2 quart
Next 1K miles = 1 mm drop in level (did not try to top it off)
Next 2K miles = seems to be no change

Right now the oil is basically a dark honey color but still looks clear.

It seems like a lot of people are treating it more like an engine flush rather than a regular oil. Some posts and youtube videos have people swapping filters or performing oil changes after every 500 miles etc. I only had the oil change done and kept monitoring it every 1K when possible and topping it off to subdue the low oil alert. One wild-assed guess I'm going to make is the 4 oil changes requirement might be to ensure that people who do 3K oil changes still manage to use the oil for over 10K miles.

In a 5k OCI, u went from an oil consumption of 5qt, 3qt, .4 qt. Nice testimonial summary.

 

[OilStainedNapkin]

I was a bit excited when I made this post as this was something I managed to fix with no suggestions or feedback from the mechanics I contacted about this problem. Whenever I brought it up to a mechanic, I usually got a blank stare or suggestions like "time to get a new car", "new engine", "used engine" etc. For some reason they did not suggest an engine flush at any place that I contacted or even something like HPL. Maybe that's just the state of mechanics on Long Island but I was researching a replacement car when I ran across VRP while searching for oil burning issues on other engines.

It was my final attempt at fixing the oil burning issue on my car (2007 Lexus GS350) which burned through almost a quart in a 300 mile highway trip at 125K miles. I tried switching to full synthetic, MMO conventional + synthetic and a few BGR additives and it had essentially plateaued at 1000 miles / quart.

I took the VRP to my mechanic each time and had him do the oil change. My progression went as follows with a top off after each check:
First oil change
First 1K miles = 1 quart
Next 1K miles = 1 quart
Next 1K miles = about .4 quart
Next 2K miles = about .6 quart

Second oil change
First 1K miles = about .2 quart
Next 1K miles = about .2 quart
Next 1K miles = 1 mm drop in level (did not try to top it off)
Next 2K miles = seems to be no change

Right now the oil is basically a dark honey color but still looks clear.

It seems like a lot of people are treating it more like an engine flush rather than a regular oil. Some posts and youtube videos have people swapping filters or performing oil changes after every 500 miles etc. I only had the oil change done and kept monitoring it every 1K when possible and topping it off to subdue the low oil alert. One wild-assed guess I'm going to make is the 4 oil changes requirement might be to ensure that people who do 3K oil changes still manage to use the oil for over 10K miles.

Amazing. Yet another success story. Thanks for sharing!

 

[cammyfive79]

While time will tell if the claims really bear fruit, it *seems* to me that VRP in a 5qt jug at Walmart for around $30 may be ideal for a lot of folks as it deals with the most common fear many have - oil consumption as the vehicle ages. Sure, if you are looking for particular specs/certifications/long drain intervals it may not work....but for fun of the mill "normie" vehicles, this may be a great option for long term use at a moderate cost.

 

[melk]

well I'll soon have VRP in 4 different cars/engines most with high miles (140-180k) so I'm eager to see how it does especially in the Northstar (2010 DTS) which takes 7.5 quarts and usually burns 1qt per 2-3k miles.