Valvoline Restore and Protect skepticism
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just curious, but what would happen if someone uses VRP then neglects to change their oil on time? would it produce sludge like other oils? Not that i would do that...
Of course it would.
The same as any other group III oil. Why would be any different just because VRP has a secret cleaning ingredient?
Actually, people report quite dark oil in the end of their first OCI. That is because the oil holds in suspension some of the cleaned off sludge and varnish.
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I decided to give it a go in my Gladiator, which I purchased with 35k miles. I ran Mobil 1 EP, mostly, with a couple runs of ESP. So I am running at least one, maybe two, 5k OCI's with R&P. I am not sure there is much in there to clean, but if there is, a couple OCI's should take care of it. Then I'm back to Mobil 1 Advanced Clean or ESP, whichever I decide to run.
I may run it in my Wrangler, too. But it's had Mobil 1 ESP in it from new, so again, not sure there is much to clean. It has 116k on it now.
I also might do an OCI or two in my Vette, which I picked up at 58k miles. It's now got 72k. Again, I don't think it can hurt.
The evidence is pretty clear that VRP works.
My only concern is if they had to change the formulation due to effects from the fight with Iran.
I may run it in my Wrangler, too. But it's had Mobil 1 ESP in it from new, so again, not sure there is much to clean. It has 116k on it now.
I also might do an OCI or two in my Vette, which I picked up at 58k miles. It's now got 72k. Again, I don't think it can hurt.
The evidence is pretty clear that VRP works.
My only concern is if they had to change the formulation due to effects from the fight with Iran.
API has allowed a 90 day reprieve to use additional base stocks, other than group 3, and maintain licensing:
https://www.fuelsandlubes.com/api-extends-emergency-provisional-licensing-by-90-days/
So, maybe that SP oil sitting on the shelf with dust on it, may not be a bad thing to grab right now....just sayin.
https://www.fuelsandlubes.com/api-extends-emergency-provisional-licensing-by-90-days/
So, maybe that SP oil sitting on the shelf with dust on it, may not be a bad thing to grab right now....just sayin.
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just a random thought. Figured as much.
Right........
This forum really cracks me up.....
In what engine did QSFS changed at 5K intervals cause varnish? I have bought several new and low mileage vehicles in my life and never had stuck rings, oil burning, varnish etc....using virtually every name brand oil including Quaker State. I was a 3K OCI guy for many years until joining BITOG and getting educated and now 5K is the minimum on synthetic for me. In my DI Focus I do 5K OCIs but will do 6 or 7K on my non DI Escape because it holds 6 quarts with the 3600 size filter and more highway driving.
I agree with the OP that VRP isn't necessary in a new vehicle unless it's a known bad design.
Maybe there is a subtle nuance here for discussion... caused Vs: allowed to happen?
Understood that Tom is referring to Quaker State and I'm speaking of Supertech below : My high mileage Trax was suffering from something that allowed for oil consumption that was apparently "cured" by Restore and Protect.
I speculate some stuck pistion rings were a distinct possability.
The previously used oil was Supertech for years.
Generally I ran the Supertech down to about 20 percent on the OLM which was usually about 6K miles.
Did Supertech "allow" whatever was causing the consumption to occur?
Did Restore and Protect really do something that stopped the consumption?
I attest to the fact that the consumption stopped after one OCI of Restore and Protect.
Admittedly, real science is not one OCI.
For my part , I'm not ignoring the single point of data either.
You'll never know, but when a problem disappears, I'm all in!
