- Jun 16, 2005
- Danville, Indiana
Fram would have a B*tch of a time defending a lawsuit where a good synthetic oil was run for 20k miles with this filter and there was a problem caused by the filter. But I think they are very confident it would handle it or they would not make the claim.Visually, the filter looks good and its integrity appears to be uncompromised. Without in-depth testing we do not know if the flow rates and filtration efficiency remain within acceptable parameters.
However, I want to point out that Fram only warranties their products for the OEM service interval. Here is a copy of the warranty document that is listed on their website:
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I also found this statement on their product page:
"Provides up to 20,000 miles/32,000 km of protection when used with an appropriate synthetic oil. Follow recommended change intervals as outlined in your owner’s manual."
FRAM Ultra Synthetic® Oil Filter | 20,000 Miles of Protection | FRAMWant the best performance from your new engine or the best protection for your older vehicle? There’s no better choice than ULTRA SYNTHETIC® oil filters.www.fram.com
To me, this suggests that Fram is confident in the 1/20K interval in applications where the OEM service interval is that long. So, the 1/20K interval may not be applicable to every application.
It is a bold claim and from what I've seen, they made a filter that can handle it, not just well, but very well. They aren't throwing a hail Mary for the sake of marketing. They aren't that stupid.
They are still struggling to shake off their old terrible reputation from years ago. They aren't going to risk that on a bold claim with a filter that might not be up to the job in common applications. I think that Pentastar would be a 300,000+ mile engine with the regimine @CarbonSteel is running. I think it is gutsy to try it but I also know he's not a risk taker like it appears on the surface. And I think Fram is less of a risk taker than him.
One more thing. I've torn the XG11665 apart after an OCI. It was the hardest media to tear apart I've ever seen. It took pliars and vice grips and LOTS of strength to tear it apart. No engine is going to get the job done. I think in terms of structural integrity it could go 40,000 miles and still look good.