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Originally Posted By: MarkC
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: MarkC
Originally Posted By: wannafbody
the sun plays the biggest role in temperature-just study the shifts in temp throughout history-the biggest being the one that brought us out of the last ice age-and it wasn't caused by humans, coal plants or cars. The magnetic field of the earth also plays a role on how much solar activity makes it to earth. Humans do didly squat in comparison to nature.


The ice ages weren't and aren't caused by differences in solar output, but most likely by a combination of factors, including, small changes in the tilt of the planet on its axis, as well as interactions between oceans, atmosphere, and landmasses.
The number of sunspots alone does not alter the overall solar emissions much at all. Solar variance alone has not been sufficient to account for drastic changes in global temps.
How come the temps on Mars is higher?


Higher than what?
And see mori's answer.
You will have to figure that out.
 
Have you bothered to examine "polar stratospheric clouds"?
Do you imagine that when something rises into the atmosphere, it stays in pace above the point of origin?
 
Originally Posted By: labman
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Yes it does.
http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/index.php?display_article=vn504ozoneed


Denial is a 2 way street. That link didn't touch the idea of why the hole is in the south.


LOL, so you guys should be choking on your CO2, and the southern hemisphere pristine ?

How can the rain forrests help suck up CO2, when they are on the other side of the world ?

Ozone is thinning over the North as well.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlkop/ozonrec.html
 
Originally Posted By: MarkC
Originally Posted By: labman
Yes the ozone. Funny thing. Freon usage is higher in the Northern hemisphere and the hole was down at the south pole over that volcano.


See "polar stratospheric clouds".

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Atmospheric scientists have proposed that ultraviolet light breaks down CFCs, releasing active chlorine, which tears apart ozone molecules. But during the months when ozone depletion is greatest, giant clouds of ice particles--so-called polar stratospheric clouds--block the ultraviolet rays. Experts have not completely solved this piece of the ozone destruction puzzle, but according to one theory, the clouds harbor active chlorine molecules. Yet it's not clear how the chlorine would come to be separated from the CFCs in this ultraviolet-free environment.

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Leon Sanche and Qing-Bin Lu of the University of Sherbrooke in Canada now believe that cosmic rays--high-energy radiation from deep space--may be breaking down the CFCs buried in the polar clouds. The two studied ozone and cosmic ray data taken by ground stations, balloons, and satellites, and found some surprising relationships. Ozone depletion seemed to be greatest at altitudes and latitudes of high cosmic ray ionization intensity. What's more, they found a strong correlation between the variation of global ozone levels and the intensity of cosmic rays during the period from 1979 to 1992. This evidence motivated Sanche and Lu to look for a mechanism connecting cosmic rays with CFC breakdown.

http://focus.aps.org/story/v8/st8
 
Originally Posted By: labman
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Yes it does.
http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/index.php?display_article=vn504ozoneed


Denial is a 2 way street. That link didn't touch the idea of why the hole is in the south.



The atmosphere over the Antarctic is colder and more humid compared to the atmosphere over the Arctic. A cold and humid atmosphere favors the formation of ozone depleting stratospheric clouds. With the atmosphere above the Arctic getting increasingly colder and more humid, the ozone hole above the Arctic also shows a trend of getting larger.
 
Originally Posted By: psiclone
You guys don't think global warming is real, you guys are more mentally challenged than Sarah Palin's son


What a loser, totally unneeded comment. Pathetically typical of the left however. Global warming is not cut and dry, if it was there would be no debates back and forth, there would not be 9 pages on this topic in this forum. For every scientist that backs warming, there is one that says no not so fast.
 
It's the desperation that shows the fear. The resistance to explore the matter. The dismissive tone. All classic indicators of trying to hide something due to fear that its true. Check that, the fear that it will be accepted as truth. There is not a care in the world whether it is true or not.
 
Originally Posted By: psiclone
You guys don't think global warming is real, you guys are more mentally challenged than Sarah Palin's son


I'm sorry, that comment was a little out of line. But seriously, they had to change the name of global warming to climate change because anytime right wingers put on a sweater they could say global warming didn't exist.
 
Originally Posted By: psiclone
Originally Posted By: psiclone
You guys don't think global warming is real, you guys are more mentally challenged than Sarah Palin's son


I'm sorry, that comment was a little out of line. But seriously, they had to change the name of global warming to climate change because anytime right wingers put on a sweater they could say global warming didn't exist.

Still nothing to back up your claims.
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The Climate is changing. Fact. Human Activity is a major contributor. My employer backs Climate change as a fact and it is a major oil company! We are heading to a time when we are going to have to make major lifestyle changes.

Another fact is that Cap and trade Carbon tax will be most beneficial for my business. Coal may not do so well.
 
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Another fact is that Cap and trade Carbon tax will be most beneficial for my business.


Commie Socialist Sterile Homogenized Society Freak!!

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Coal may not do so well.


That's so unfair
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Originally Posted By: Bryanccfshr
The Climate is changing. Fact. Human Activity is a major contributor. My employer backs Climate change as a fact and it is a major oil company! We are heading to a time when we are going to have to make major lifestyle changes.

Another fact is that Cap and trade Carbon tax will be most beneficial for my business. Coal may not do so well.
what a bunch of profit making B.S.
 
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