continued from above...I indicated to the SW that I luckily had another car I owned and could drive it and park my problem vehicle until I decided what to do with it. lol
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The nightmare con't. Domino effect of bad service!
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Originally Posted By: RH+G
That video shows exactly what he did on the car.
Also the reason the old bearing failed. It was old and wasnt gonna be happy taking a beating/seperating
Thanks for the explanation RH+G.
I only wish the SW would have explained that the extra stress on the old bearing would likely kill it earlier than it would otherwise fail.
All I got for my trouble was a new set of tires instead.
Yet ANOTHER shop I will never be returning to, even for the free "life of the new tires" rotations.
That video shows exactly what he did on the car.
Also the reason the old bearing failed. It was old and wasnt gonna be happy taking a beating/seperating
Thanks for the explanation RH+G.
I only wish the SW would have explained that the extra stress on the old bearing would likely kill it earlier than it would otherwise fail.
All I got for my trouble was a new set of tires instead.
Yet ANOTHER shop I will never be returning to, even for the free "life of the new tires" rotations.
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It WAS an old part. it could easily have gone either way.
Having been in the service industry (shop monkey, tech, service writer and shop foreman), I have to say, I side with the customer here. I found it the best practice to at least give a head's up. I think they just didn't have the experience to know that a high mileage bearing doesn't take kindly to a stud replacement. Yeah, you can probably get away with it 9 times out of ten, but it sure sticks in the customer's craw when they have to come back - that's why we called em "comebacks."
i was a machinist at Boeing wichita, 25 years. i spent MANY years making air craft threads, on a turret lathe. you would be surprised how many people dont know any thing about threads.
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
When I turned wrenches I had the tool from MATCO for those hubs. I could get the hub off and to the rotor in about 10 minutes. Still got to flag 2 hours a side, but I had to pay off the $250 tool. One of the lamest designs ever if I might say so.
Oh no! you didn't just criticize a Honda did you? I thought everything about them was perfect.
When I turned wrenches I had the tool from MATCO for those hubs. I could get the hub off and to the rotor in about 10 minutes. Still got to flag 2 hours a side, but I had to pay off the $250 tool. One of the lamest designs ever if I might say so.
Oh no! you didn't just criticize a Honda did you? I thought everything about them was perfect.
The above is a perfect illustration of how the flat rate book killed quality service and repair!
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Its a 20 year old car when you start taking stuff apart other things often break. If the wheel bearings are original they are all due for replacement. If you plan on keeping the car for any period of time I'd at least repack all 4 if not outright replace them.
You do not repack these bearings,,They are sealed------20 yrs old i doubt is a issue either,It is who worked on his vehicle is,I have seen his model import go 200,000 on OEM factory wheel bearings many times easily,My import has the original front rotors (with a few pad changes) and original rear drums (just changed the shoes last month)--rotors and drums have 143,000 on them
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im sure if i ever took my car to a dealer for repairs they would say it needs new rotors and drums cause they are 20 yrs old,and insist on more uncalled repairs,,Thats how they make their money
Its a 20 year old car when you start taking stuff apart other things often break. If the wheel bearings are original they are all due for replacement. If you plan on keeping the car for any period of time I'd at least repack all 4 if not outright replace them.
You do not repack these bearings,,They are sealed------20 yrs old i doubt is a issue either,It is who worked on his vehicle is,I have seen his model import go 200,000 on OEM factory wheel bearings many times easily,My import has the original front rotors (with a few pad changes) and original rear drums (just changed the shoes last month)--rotors and drums have 143,000 on them
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im sure if i ever took my car to a dealer for repairs they would say it needs new rotors and drums cause they are 20 yrs old,and insist on more uncalled repairs,,Thats how they make their money
Those are junk bearings than I'm amazed they went that long.
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Originally Posted By: heyu
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Those are junk bearings than I'm amazed they went that long.
What's amazing is you thought you can re pack them with grease when they are sealed to begin with
Yep. Front bearings are sealed, most modern front wheel drive vehicles are the same.
The hub comes apart to access the bearings, and as another poster mentioned if you don't pre load the bearing upon replacing it guess what.....quick failure.
You can only hope that the shop you use knows what the heck they are doing.
While my bearings had 129k on them it is one heck of a coincidence that just 250 miles after the hub and bearings were reassembled one fails seriously in a span of just 50 miles. It was quiet upon receiving the vehicle back and 50 miles later it sounded like an prop engine taking off. Of course the shop I used was so good as to not take ANY responsibility at all. Or even offer a good will price reduction even though we also bought new tires there. Never going back.
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Those are junk bearings than I'm amazed they went that long.
What's amazing is you thought you can re pack them with grease when they are sealed to begin with
Yep. Front bearings are sealed, most modern front wheel drive vehicles are the same.
The hub comes apart to access the bearings, and as another poster mentioned if you don't pre load the bearing upon replacing it guess what.....quick failure.
You can only hope that the shop you use knows what the heck they are doing.
While my bearings had 129k on them it is one heck of a coincidence that just 250 miles after the hub and bearings were reassembled one fails seriously in a span of just 50 miles. It was quiet upon receiving the vehicle back and 50 miles later it sounded like an prop engine taking off. Of course the shop I used was so good as to not take ANY responsibility at all. Or even offer a good will price reduction even though we also bought new tires there. Never going back.
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: heyu
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Those are junk bearings than I'm amazed they went that long.
What's amazing is you thought you can re pack them with grease when they are sealed to begin with
Yep. Front bearings are sealed, most modern front wheel drive vehicles are the same.
The hub comes apart to access the bearings, and as another poster mentioned if you don't pre load the bearing upon replacing it guess what.....quick failure.
You can only hope that the shop you use knows what the heck they are doing.
While my bearings had 129k on them it is one heck of a coincidence that just 250 miles after the hub and bearings were reassembled one fails seriously in a span of just 50 miles. It was quiet upon receiving the vehicle back and 50 miles later it sounded like an prop engine taking off. Of course the shop I used was so good as to not take ANY responsibility at all. Or even offer a good will price reduction even though we also bought new tires there. Never going back.
As i noted on a earlier post i totally agree you had bad service from the repair shop you went to,,I'm not much of a import car person but i know your model car goes over 200,000 easy with no bearing issues and most not even takin care of either
Originally Posted By: heyu
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Those are junk bearings than I'm amazed they went that long.
What's amazing is you thought you can re pack them with grease when they are sealed to begin with
Yep. Front bearings are sealed, most modern front wheel drive vehicles are the same.
The hub comes apart to access the bearings, and as another poster mentioned if you don't pre load the bearing upon replacing it guess what.....quick failure.
You can only hope that the shop you use knows what the heck they are doing.
While my bearings had 129k on them it is one heck of a coincidence that just 250 miles after the hub and bearings were reassembled one fails seriously in a span of just 50 miles. It was quiet upon receiving the vehicle back and 50 miles later it sounded like an prop engine taking off. Of course the shop I used was so good as to not take ANY responsibility at all. Or even offer a good will price reduction even though we also bought new tires there. Never going back.
As i noted on a earlier post i totally agree you had bad service from the repair shop you went to,,I'm not much of a import car person but i know your model car goes over 200,000 easy with no bearing issues and most not even takin care of either
All of our fleet trucks use sealed hubs and hat style rotors now.
Our oldest is an 04, still have an 05 and 06 in the fleet as well.
None have ever needed any hub repair. That is one 'sealed for life' component that seems to rarely fail.
Note the same trucks have over 20 zerks on the front end!
Our oldest is an 04, still have an 05 and 06 in the fleet as well.
None have ever needed any hub repair. That is one 'sealed for life' component that seems to rarely fail.
Note the same trucks have over 20 zerks on the front end!
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