I used to live in Nevada and Arizona and they did the same value accessed tags. Stupidly expensive.
Texas bill that introduces $200 fee on EVs to fund roads just passed
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I will gladly trade registration fees with just about anyone...
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It's still lbs per square inch. The effect is displacement of the asphalt substrate, shoring up the areas adjacent where the tires don't contact, coupled with erosion/removal of material, primarily in the areas that they do. Both of these phenomena result in the ruts we observe on roadways, whether they are traversed by all types of traffic or passenger vehicles exclusively.
How quickly do the hammer lanes on major highways rut where freight vehicles are excluded, compared to the low speed lanes where transport trucks operate? Is it several thousand times slower or is it about 3-4x slower?
One can readily infer comparative rates of degradation through this observation and find it correlates reasonably well with contact patch as expressed.
I would agree that EVs need to pay their fair share to use the roads.
We have a stretch of I-75 downtown that, in the space of 2 years, has four ruts visible from the dually trailer wheels, like a double set of asphalt train tracks. Fun when those fill with water & freeze!
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Yup, depends on the road, we have some streets that see mixed traffic and they rut in like 4-6 years while the roads that don't have heavy truck traffic take 10-15 years to rut to the same level.
Well kudos to Texas. Is I understand right those EVS are quite a bit heavier than standard automobiles so they're harder on tires and on the road. They're not going to be using any fuel which is pre-taxed so they won't be contributing to that either. I was talking to a gentleman today about compressed natural gas that he had in his Honda Civic model. Down here in Wichita he said he can only find one or two places that offers it. It sounds very promising if they had more places of availability. I like seeing cars that are diesel and petrol and natural gas and electric. What we don't need is the pendulum to tilt all the way one way because we have had previous discussions about the strains that it does to the grid. I think it was last year or the year before when Texas had that really hard winter, my uncle didn't have electricity so he got in his truck and drove around with the heat on. Good thing we didn't throw out the baby with the bathwater and only have one choice. I'm still looking forward to the day when I can shovel Coal in my car just like the trains do.
I agree with #85 comment by OVERKILL. Charge by the KW amount register by VIN # at the charge port. Ed
The anti EV crowd cheering this anti tax typically in their thought process. Something does not compute.
The tax needs to be based on energy used (consumption based just like gas); flat tax is the same for a person travelling 100 miles/month vs 1500 miles a month which doesn't factor the substantial less wear and tear on the roads.
I'm all for taxes = miles travelled x some sort of weight calculation but lots of bitog'rs don't want anyone knowing the miles they travel; the roads should just fix themselves regardless of who is actually using them and to what degree.
I'm all for taxes = miles travelled x some sort of weight calculation but lots of bitog'rs don't want anyone knowing the miles they travel; the roads should just fix themselves regardless of who is actually using them and to what degree.
Not anti EV at all, but they need to pay for road repair just like the rest of us still in gassers.
SANDAG the San Diego association of governments is going to assess a per mile tax on motorists in San Diego County. This is for the lack of gas tax from EVs. Problem is that it will be applied to ICE car drivers also effectively double taxing them. Another problem is how does one differentiate between miles driven in county or out? If I still lived there all of my cars would have the mechanical speedometers disconnected. No ecm for me.
The IRP and apportionment is for the license plates on the truck. It is apportioned, or shared, among each state the vehicle operates in. It has nothing to do with the road tax via fuel taxes. You have to fill in a form telling how many miles you drove last year in each of the 50 states plus Canadian provinces. Then when you pay your huge fee for license plates it is apportioned as shown in the example.Here's an example I found on a web page about apportioned registration. No idea if these numbers are accurate.
https://www.motorcarrierhq.com/2019/08/02/what-is-irp-or-apportioned-registration/
Ya. $200 is rather excessive.
Lol. Extra weight? The largest Tesla weighs in at 4500 lbs. It's hardly heavy considering all the trucks and SUV's out there
No kidding. This narrative irks me. The RWD Model 3 is only 3,800lbs. The heavy stuff is the stupid Hummer and the other trucks are a bit under that. Charge per weight if anything, but in Wisconsin other than buying truck plates(an additional $10) I pay the same electric fee for my Model 3 as a Hummer EV buyer does. It weighs more than twice what my car weighs. I'm still baffled how it is considered street legal for civilian use.
Taxing ev's at the plug cant work, there are too many free riders with their solar panels. Hitting them at the tax office by mileage is the only way it can work IMO.
Yes, and it would be easy enough to have every state inspect the cars annually for a fee and report the miles driven. Then the proper agency generates a bill for the tax due and sends it to the current owner of the vehicle. A nice money grab.
Sad that we're so used to being taxed 10 ways from Sunday that we're like, "yes, we have to hit them this way."
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