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We use asphalt under concrete in some cases. It’s active soil in it’s own right - that’s why pipe is often in the attic and there are so many foundation repairs …
Texas bill that introduces $200 fee on EVs to fund roads just passed
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That may be but the specific comment was toward Texas and how they couldn't obtain accurate miles driven to calculate a fair share road tax. My comment was refuting that position, for Texas not elsewhere.
Well if they’re going to charge it shouldn’t be $200. In Wisconsin the fee is already twice what I was paying in gas tax on an SUV and the car only weighs 3,800 lbs. it’s ridiculous.
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The vehicles are already able to provide this information to what they handshake with:
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Tracking the kWh consumed by VIN through the charge port would be the most effective and accurate solution.
How many miles are you putting on your EV vs the guzzler? Lot of variables, perhaps it is comparable.
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Freedom ain't free! That's the thing about the "I don't pay taxes, it's stealing" crowd. Do they want to be grifters and pay for nothing while taking advantage of everything? There must be a balance of course. Look at other states that don't have tolls, like CA, they are paying through the nose in "temporary" gas taxes. You can also look at NJ, high gas taxes and tolls, not good.
Makes sense and a good idea as EVs usually weigh a little more than regular cars. So does TX have a higher tax for big rigs because they are heavy and tear up the roads?
Shrink/swell clay soil? It's not uncommon around here. The roads that have been widened or otherwise "re-engineered" don't seem to have the same problems as the ones that have had nothing done to them other than getting paved. (In the 1930s, there was a big push to get Virginia's roads paved, quick, fast, and in a hurry--and the results were "haste makes waste" exemplified).
EVs should contribute to road maintenence, just like ICE contributes at the pump. A flat fee is easiest to implement, but it is not apples-to-apples to the fuel tax, which is consumption. Auto insurance, at least mine, uses mileage as part of the price calculation.
There will probably be more appropriate calculations going forward, as EVs continue to grow as a percentage of vehicles on our highways.
Regardless taxes will never be fair, but are part of our incredible lives. We have it pretty darn good here.
There will probably be more appropriate calculations going forward, as EVs continue to grow as a percentage of vehicles on our highways.
Regardless taxes will never be fair, but are part of our incredible lives. We have it pretty darn good here.
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Yeah - It’s pay now or pay later - especially with so much truck and agricultural traffic … unfortunately some can’t think past a 4 year term (especially local) - and kick the can down the road … In a few years you are ripping out everything - shutting down everything - when it could have been topped over at the right time …
Tractor Trailers are taxed more than what is fair to them as they are the easy ones to pick on both in the cost of diesel fuel and registration fees which are already in the ball park you mention. Since they have a minority voice, they are fleeced with costs for every imaginable thing, they do subsidize the rest of us.if you were for fair licensing, a tractor trailer would pay 1000 dollars for its registration because it causes ten times the damage to the roads as a car does... since a bike probably causes .001 of the road wear a car does, maybe a 10 cent fee would be fair.
https://www.txdmv.gov/sites/default/files/body-files/FeeSchedule_Truck.pdf
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They pay 24.3 cents per gallon federal diesel tax plus 20 cents per gallon Texas diesel tax, 44.3 cents per gallon of diesel purchased in Texas.
Yea, see, what's wrong with paving jobs that don't last more than 5 years? It helps keep the paving people employed.
you forgot something to factor in your equations... static load is one thing, load in motion another.
No, that’s what I’m saying. It’s not even close. I replaced the SUV with the car. It’s being driven for the exact same purposes as that SUV was and would get less than 8,000 miles a year. Why would it even need to be considered as equivalent when I’m paying what would be at least 10k miles a year on the SUV when the SUV weighs 1,000lbs more?
I dont have any argument with anybody over fair share stuff, except to point out my original comment was aimed at the knucklehead who offered the opinion that road taxing bicycles was a worthwhile idea.
Here's an example I found on a web page about apportioned registration. No idea if these numbers are accurate.
https://www.motorcarrierhq.com/2019/08/02/what-is-irp-or-apportioned-registration/
Gotcha, thought you had both still. Only thing I know about Wisconsin registration is it's cheap compared to Minnesota, for newer cars anyway. This stupid state uses vehicle value and age. Yearly tabs for my Honda Pilot were nearly 700 when I bought it, I'm at the minimum now at 40 per year. Makes no sense.
As for gas tax, EVs have to pay something for road use. There aren't any perfect solutions for sure. I'd be for taking an average of yearly miles driven statewide, and figuring out a flat comparable amount to gas tax on a regular car. Until annual mileage gets reported, some people will get hosed and some will make out well.
At least you can deduct that from your Federal income taxes because it's not a fixed amount and therefore considered a state tax, at least if I understand what TaxCut said when I did my taxes..
...assuming you don't hit the $10K SALT limit. (State and local taxes can only be deducted up to $10K).
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