Teslas have highest accident rates per 1000 drivers highest of any auto brand.
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GON
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Considering the Lexus is number five, issue appears to point more to the driver than the vehicle itself.
I’m surprised Subaru is that high. Around here they tie with Toyota and Honda drivers as the most infuriating thing to be stuck behind.
They're always the worst drivers! I have a theory Subaru drivers buy them because they're terrified to drive in the snow...and aren't much better on dry roads! I have no idea why anyone in Phoenix would buy a Subaru.
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Slow doesn't mean competent to drive defensively.
For the 2 times a year it rains of course! Because yknow.. you NEED AWD to accelerate at 2mph per second to 15 under the limit.
That's literally every Subaru I encounter!
Just what I like to see. I hear you meet the nicest people on (in) a Honda.
Vehicles under 6 months old are the most likely to total out, oddly older cars despite the lack of safety equipment are much less likely to be in a severe accident that totals the car.
We aren't talking about total losses, just likelihood to be involved in an accident in general.
With a new car comes with unfamiliarity with how it handles and how everything else works. I’m a firm believer in taking out to a desolate area where the only thing you can hurt is yourself and seeing how the ABS feels, if it's wet out floor it from a stop to see how your traction control will respond etc. First good snowfall after I got my truck I was out in an empty parking lot pushing it to see what it would do.
For example my 2011 Durango and 2016 300 would just cut all power if traction control activated and then hold that reduced power state for a second or 2. Pretty dangerous if you have to pull out onto a busy road and step on it. My 2019 Ram is far more graceful, it’ll slowly ramp down the power instead of just cutting it entirely unless you start getting pretty far sideways, but even then it’ll pick right back up pretty much instantly.
Who do you think is buying Teslas these days?Around here they're coming close to BMW for their drivers doing stupid/deadly high speed maneuvers, earning them the obligatory bird flip. They have a few years to go in my estimation to gain the title, there still isn't enough of them on the road to take it, yet.
My insurance isn't more expensive though. Sounds like it may be eventually with all this stupidity though.for those who think they will save money on gas, think about how much more you are going to spend on insurance, even ignoring the cost of the vehicle compared to gas.
I've never heard of Teslas being referred to as safe in that way, just that they score very high on crash tests. It would be a lot safer to just not crash in the first place. I don't think there's anything less safe than relying on supposed driver aid safety systems that almost guarantee the driver isn't paying attention when something really goes wrong and now their reaction time is compromised because they weren't actively driving.
Guaranteed at least those drivers aren't using FSD. That system will signal.
I'd like to say that's not the case, but when I get on my FSD rants with Tesla owners apparently I'm the minority in thinking the system is only a driver's aid and apparently those that feel the need to tell me otherwise feel it's the second coming of Jesus and the car will deliver them from evil on their trip to Costco. I get that tech is getting better and many see driving as an inconvenience wholly ignoring the fact that driving is a privilege and requires responsibility for the safety of those around them. It's why I do not like using these systems and prefer to actively engage with my vehicles and I genuinely enjoy the act of driving and take it seriously when I do not want to be driving as well.
To be fair that statistic makes me think that those cars driven safer tend to last longer do to safer drivers, meaning that a safer driver is more likely to be driving an older car. If the person that buys a new car and writes it off every 6 months, they'll always be in a new car(until they lose their license).
Lets just say it's best I say no one I know and not elaborate.
Let me correct that, my doctor had one. FTR I would think he's a safe driver too.There was just a lot about how Audi and BMW drivers were the biggest converts to Tesla and neither have had good driving track records. I think the ones that fall into the category of poor drivers in the BMW and Audis are base buyers with a bit more money paying for a label and not because of driving dynamics. Audi is one of my favorite brands(not their EVs) because I think they make some of the best special models and these aren't the cars that these types of buyers are picking.Lets just say it's best I say no one I know and not elaborate.
Model 3 and Y seem to be in a similar price point as BMW 3 or 4 series and Audi A4s.
Personally I want one of these. I just wish we got the hatch in the US.
All kidding aside, I could see Audi and BMW drivers buying them. What bothers me is if someone wants to drive one like a nut and kill himself fine, but don't do it when innocent people are around. A lot of us just want to get from point A to point B alive. Including TSLA and BMW drivers!There was just a lot about how Audi and BMW drivers were the biggest converts to Tesla and neither have had good driving track records. I think the ones that fall into the category of poor drivers in the BMW and Audis are base buyers with a bit more money paying for a label and not because of driving dynamics. Audi is one of my favorite brands(not their EVs) because I think they make some of the best special models and these aren't the cars that these types of buyers are picking.
Model 3 and Y seem to be in a similar price point as BMW 3 or 4 series and Audi A4s.
Personally I want one of these. I just wish we got the hatch in the US.
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Don’t worry, Subaru will take No. 1. I think every Camey owner here switched or has a wet dream to switch to Outback.
Don’t believe it, hearsay, no more or less than any other brand car.
Just an opinion, no data to support it, and three brands of cars I'll never own.
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