Teslas have highest accident rates per 1000 drivers highest of any auto brand.

All depends on how old their last Accord was. If was say a 2014, there were models that barely broke 10 seconds.

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6.1 to as slow as 7.8 in 2014.
 
Great article that destroys the BEV "5 cents per mile" nonsense. When you include everything, we are talking about 50 cents per mile for a Tesla. I get into the details here: https://www.uberpeople.net/threads/why-hybrids-beat-ice-and-bevs-hands-down.492097/ .
You've created a very specific situation there though that predicates home selection, and subsequently a considerable portion of your cost, on EV use. Most of us will just get an EV charger installed (mine is in my driveway and I currently don't own an EV) and won't be moving just because we are getting a different vehicle. Also, most of us aren't driving for Uber.

So, for somebody like myself, shopping something in the same price bracket, the variables are:
- Insurance premium difference
- Cost of electricity vs gas
- Frequency of tire replacement & brakes vs the gas vehicle, as well as other gas vehicle costs (synthetic oil, other fluids...etc)

Assuming 15,000km driven per year, that's 2,936L of fuel, at $1.70/L that's $4,990 for my Jeep.

The BMW i4 M50 is in the same price bracket. Assuming similar insurance, tire wear and brake costs, it has a a real world consumption of 1kWh per 4.67km based on InsideEV's data, so that's 3,212kWh per year. Average all-in electricity price in Ontario is ~$0.12/kWh if your usage is higher, so that's $385 in electricity, assuming always charging at home every night.

So, assuming same capital cost, that's a fuel cost saving of $4,605/year, which is considerable.

This is a $36,840 savings over 8 years.

So that's maybe not the other end of the spectrum, but a clearly different scenario from the on you've used.
 
Turns out this whole piece was nonsense.

Lending tree tracked QUOTES for new insurance and tallied what people submitted.

They had no idea what car the person that was asking for a quote was driving when and if they claimed had an accident.
Only that they were asking for an insurance quote on a particular new car and claimed you had an accident/incident prior.
 
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Turns out this whole piece was nonsense.

Lending tree tracked QUOTES for new insurance and tallied what people submitted.

They had no idea what car the person that was asking for a quote on was driving when and if they had an accident,
Only that they were asking for an insurance quote on a particular new car and claimed you had an accident/incident prior.
Just what I thought
 
For the record my Honda Accord V6 6MT accelerates noticeably faster than my BMW 528i 5MT did. And my Tesla Model 3 SR+ accelerates much faster than either of them.

When passing I have a tendency to start accelerating before pulling into the adjacent lane. With the instantaneous and rapid acceleration of the Tesla I had to stop doing that so I don't rear end the vehicle I'm passing. That wouldn't be good.
 
Pretty sure that calling something "Full self driving" that isn't, doesn't help, but of course selling a car that the lower control arms break in half must contribute to that number somehow.

2 things here - The naming convention was stupid, but so are people that cant read the instructions or the license when they sign up for it.

The control arm story has been discredited as well - the photo showed a post crash damaged arm which is presented as a defect.
Tesla knows if you've crashed curbed or otherwise bent the car because they have the telemetry.
You cant pull the old "I don't know what happened".
Telsa claims they fixed over half the part damage claims (120K) under warranty, and that if a part fails because any manufacturing defect they fix it.
 
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Give unprepared drivers lightning quick vehicles on small street compound tires and don’t be surprised at the outcome.

Public streets aren’t racetracks. Whether it’s a Tesla, a Porsche, or a Camry, you won’t find the cars limit on the street. You’ll find the streets limits or your own.
 
2 things here - The naming convention was stupid, but so are people that cant read the instructions or the license when they sign up for it.

The control arm story has been discredited as well - the photo showed a post crash damaged arm which is presented as a defect.
Tesla knows if you've crashed curbed or otherwise bent the car because they have the telemetry.
You cant pull the old "I don't know what happened".
Telsa claims they fixed over half the part damage claims (120K) under warranty, and that if a part fails because any manufacturing defect they fix it.
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...egulator-over-suspension-failures-2023-12-21/

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

Something is Askew.
 
Word to the wise, get an insurance quote on the vehicle you want to buy before you go car shopping. There's more to buying a car than liking it and getting a good price. Insurance costs can break a deal. ;)
 
They're always the worst drivers! I have a theory Subaru drivers buy them because they're terrified to drive in the snow...and aren't much better on dry roads! I have no idea why anyone in Phoenix would buy a Subaru.
I also see subies with crossclimates and other all weather tires driving around Phoenix. When are they planning on driving in snow? It hasn't even rained in 4 months, and there's 3 more before it might rain again.
 
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