Tesla is struggling to turn Cybertruck reservations into buyers.
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Musk gave him his first platform. Tucker seems like the city guy who moves to the country and learns all kinds of things that city guys don't know. And he is enjoying it. And he likes the people who are real.
Only in Texas. Technically they don't pass NCAP regulations but a few have made their way to Europe and the middle east with large markups.
For how long I wonder? Tesla has apparently already burned through their supposed "Five year backlog " of orders. Motor1 had someone reach out to them and they said they ordered their Cybertruck in June. They were notified by Tesla that their truck is ready. Second I'd be curious to know how many/ what percentage of orders were for the rwd version? Tesla has cancelled that version and marked the other two up significantly again.
The Tesla Cybertruck was the United States' best-selling vehicle priced at over $100,000 in the month of June, new data from Kelley Blue Book found. New vehicle prices remained steady and mostly unchanged from both May 2024 and June 2023.
How long? Well, I don't have a crystal ball; I just deal with numbers.
I'm making the point that many who attack Musk are really against him because he's not 'politically correct' in our current environment.
If they are really upset over his false 'promises' they should feel the same about our domestic auto makers who can't even produce a decent family car competitively. The 'Heartbeat of America' should realize that not everybody wants an SUV or pickup truck.
I hardly agree with everything Musk does in the business word and elsewhere. But I love the cars because America is once again leading the world in a major product.
Each to their own but an American car company right up the road from me in Silicon Valley is great.
As of December 31, 2023, Tesla had over 140K employees worldwide. There have been layoffs, but still well in excess of 100K.
There are over 22,000 at Fremont alone.
I salute and support that. Oh yeah, one ride in our new M3P in Insane Mode and you will understand. A daily driver that runs on the sun that will light you up!
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How did this contraption pass road safety requirements with all the sharp corners and edges, it's a hazard standing still.
That's the fun thing, it doesn't have to! That's not even a requirement in the US.
There are requirements but I think over a certain weight they are different. I think it's interesting that a few years ago Tesla paid to have several models crash tested by the NHTSA and notably the iihs which is more stringent. Tesla went on about how well they did yet they done seem to want to show how well (or poorly) the Cybertruck did. I know that heavy pick up trucks must pass a roll over simulation test but it really doesn't simulate a roll over. The test involves a hydraulic ram that pushes down on the cab at a 45 degree angle with 1.5 times the weight of the vehicle.
A second thing is that manufacturers would have to show somehow that they pass all safety regulations or how can the government tell me that importing a Citroen or Mitsuoka doesn't pass us regulations?
I saw one yesterday for the first time. 100K+ is a lot of $. Just like new house sizes, our pick-up truck size options need to get smaller and much less expensive. I wish I could buy new a small pick-up like the 1985 Nissan I once owed. Great truck!
The sharpness and aggressiveness of the shape comes down to pedestrian crash standards which Europe has, but the US does not. That's why the Cybertruck does not sell there, but every other Tesla does. Look at European designed and sold vehicles that also sell here and vehicles that do not sell there, but only sell in the US.
Weight isn't the differentiator in this case. I'm sure you know this is a hot button for me, because I've been very outspoken about overly large, heavy vehicles. That's not what's going on here though. There just is no pedestrian impact requirement in the US. As far as not importing another vehicles because of regulations is only because the manufacturer never paid to test it for US regulations. It very well may pass, but was never certified here. That's the reason why most countries have the Toyota GR Yaris. We don't get the Yaris anymore so they made the GR Corolla for the US. If you've followed any of the news on the GR Corolla, it's not had a good time reliability wise. I don't know that it is specific to the GR Corolla, but Toyota did not feel it was beneficial to homologate the Yaris for the US to bring the car here, nor did they think the US would want a Yaris version being smaller than the Corolla.
I don disagree with you but if your persistent you can still score a basic truck. ITs a bit of a challenge because Americans only want expensive trucks that they have to take out 7 year loans for
I was just looking around and was little surprised to find what I did.
https://www.carfax.com/blog/cheapest-pickup-trucks
https://www.cars.com/articles/here-are-the-10-cheapest-pickup-trucks-you-can-buy-right-now-448622/
The model 3 didn't initially pass ncap crash tests as Europe added more pedestrian regulations. Tesla essentially by the skin of their teeth and added a frunk that pops-up in the event of a pedestrian strike. A really good article covered by jalopnik goes over this from 2022. Second I attended a speech in a college class in 2015 or so and the key speaker was the Vice President of Ford Motor company. Afterward myself and about 5 other car nuts stuck around and chatted a bit with him about automotive regulations etc. In Japan and other countries manufacturers can submit one vehicle make and model to certify then have offshoots of that. The EPA requires certification for every combination sold plus about a million dollars per crash test. This is why if manual transmission take rates on a model fall below ten per many manufacturers drop it. Vehicle weight has a huge factor on crash testing. I think anything over 8600 lbs is considered "Heavy duty" and less is required. I looked up NCAP rules and the biggest reason the Cybertruck was pulled from European orders is it's considered a "commercial vehicle " meaning a commercial drivers license is required.
