I thought it was just speculated that they were Brembos, not that they actually were. I've never had factory Brembos where they didn't also have the Brembo logo on it, but I could be wrong. I'm not an expert on all things Tesla. I'm still a gearhead first and there's less Tesla models I would buy than wouldn't. I think that's why the brake thing doesn't both me. I just see it as a comfortable yet fast commuter. An appliance that hauls ass.I was pretty sure the Model Y Performance originally came with Brembo's, hence the critique in this thread:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a36376244/2020-tesla-model-y-performance-by-the-numbers/
Edit, to add:
Apparently this change, back when it was first reported, only applied to the rears, and the front brakes stayed Brembo:
https://insideevs.com/news/630576/tesla-model-y-performance-plastic-caliper-covers/
Not sure if that's still the case?
Tesla clandestinely downgrades performance brakes, adds cover to hide it
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They might not be. I think someone else mentioned they fully disengage and offer less resistance not in use, which I did not know. That would possibly matter to range and while braking force would be reduced, regen is there. I think many don't realize how effective regenerative braking actually is. You really don't need massive brakes, because a good amount of braking force is done by the motors.
Why
Cue the defenders!
Less sprung weight, extremely fade resistance. If the model s and x plaid want to not have massive brake fade or the brakes catching fire carbon ceramic rotors are a must.
It's a $20k option for the S.
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BMW uses Brembo too, but they have the ///M logo on them.
and it was a rolling start!
As for the brakes, "Specifications are subject to change without notice."
You mean rollout subtracted. Real number is 2.3 which is blistering, but this rollout crap needs to be stopped. Dodge talked crap about it and then advertised their 1.66 0-60 with rollout subtracted.and it was a rolling start!
As for the brakes, "Specifications are subject to change without notice."
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Completely different thing.
They use drum brakes for drag. True! I think they could go regular rotors, but whatever.
Tesla is moving to cheap Chinese supplier. On such “performance “ vehicle there is an issue going in the first place to calipers like that, let alone to BYD or whatever. ATE makes fixed calipers or sliding, but even that was expensive, obviously. Why? Bcs. only performance Tesla customers care is how 0-60 looks on Tik Tok.
Thats really how these cars are used and how I would use it too. I'd take my GTI on a track. It feels like a waste of time to do that in the Tesla.
Guys love talking about stuff they'd never be able to afford or get anyway.
Its price performance is either competitive in segment or not.
Im not sure it hurt the 70-0 much if at all, but the 5K savings will def make the car more popular.
If you really want the brembo rears put the year over year on savings back into a set of rear brembos.
We're aligned here.
I never could figure out just how drums remained a cheaper option, but clearly there are material and machining cost differences that result in a sizable gap.
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edyvw
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There is huge difference here and two separate issues:
1. Fixed calipers can fit larger pad. Whether you track vehicle or not is irrelevant. There is more friction surface on similarly sized rotor compared to sliding calipers. Also, pressure is more equal hence lesser possible for rotor to start vibrating. Contrary to popular opinion, fixed calipers are not necessarily best option on track. They provide, again, more friction surface, but cooling has to be perfectly executed.
2. Bigger issue with Tesla is choice of supplier. They didn’t go ATE, TMD, Akebono, they went Chinese route. Considering that Tesla obviously has issues providing appropriate brakes (Plaid) only conclusion is that they really don’t care.
What is the overall change in performance envelope with the regression and will the car become non competitive in the segment?
Seems easy to conclude they care more about a lower price than better braking we'll see how the car sells and performs in all kinds of test.
If chinese components in rear brakes condemn a car then a lot of cars are going to fall in that same category.
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There is difference between ATE or TMD made Chinese brakes. Those are their products. Tesla is choosing Chinese company! Huge difference! If it was that easy, Brembo, AP Racing, ATE etc. would not exist.
Competitive? Tesla customers don’t care about that. This is the reason why Tesla is not and won’t be Porsche, Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes etc. “Performance “ part on Tesla vehicles remind me of Camry TRD.
I never said there wasnt a difference.
I asked what the new braking stats were.
Everybody gets to decide whats important to them, and there are always more expensive cars with better components available.
I would like to see the numbers. Without data, it's just opinion.
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Absolutely agree.
Let's remember that when someone mentions how Tesla is a "luxury" or "performance" vehicle.
