Tesla Christmas Road Trip - Battery needed frequent re-charging - Range Estimates were 50% to 69% off

This "discussion" reminds me a lot of the old Usenet discussions I remember from the late 90s. There were some fervent VW enthusiasts who would go on Honda discussion groups and tell them why they made a bad decision. It got really tiresome since a lot of it was dominated by the haters and that really created a lot of noise where it was harder to discuss real issues.
pretty well said, the video are recorded facts about a electric vehicle car trip. The discussion that follows are people making excuses for the facts and trying to discredit them but you can’t discredit facts 🤗
 
Yep no changing that. I think something in common, no one is going to change how we feel. Maybe we can agree on that.

Agreed!

I'm not looking to change how anyone feels, I'm looking to understand and share how they work and the nuance between them and other forms of transport.

To me it's just a different tool in the toolbox, emotion doesn't add value.

It'd be great for a place to hate and a place discuss, but subforms are hard to manage.
 
pretty well said, the video are recorded facts about a electric vehicle car trip. The discussion that follows are people making excuses for the facts and trying to discredit them but you can’t discredit facts 🤗

Facts? Seemed more like a hit piece than anything else. There's a learning curve with almost anything. I remember going around in my dad's diesel car and it got really weird going on road trips trying to find a place to fill up. And it really sucked back in a time when the easiest way to find out what businesses were in an area were the Yellow Pages and 411.
 
Facts? Seemed more like a hit piece than anything else. There's a learning curve with almost anything. I remember going around in my dad's diesel car and it got really weird going on road trips trying to find a place to fill up. And it really sucked back in a time when the easiest way to find out what businesses were in an area were the Yellow Pages and 411.
A factual trip in an EV. Ones personal perception doesnt change the facts.
That helps people decide if EV is for them or stay with gasoline.
Same goes for your dad's diesel vs gas.
Facts help the public decide which product is for them.
 
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This is horrible, I didnt know it could be so bad. 50 to 69% less than mileage the car estimated. Reporter stated re-charge costs were as much as gasoline. But forget that, took the trip an enormous more amount of time vs a vehicle with the ICE


Nothing new. I’ve been saying that based upon experience for the last year. We can have a lower per mile cost in a minivan than a model 3.

Perhaps if you cheat the system and don’t pay road tax you can be cheaper charging at home.

I know my hybrid gets much worse MPGs when heat is needed. And that’s just from burning fuel in a normal ice scenario.

Of course running heat in an EV is going to be an energy intensive situation.
 
In light of text messages which were made public during a lawsuit against FOX News it should be no surprise that they are abundantly aware of who their audience is and have an unrelenting drive to give their their audience what it wants to hear.

Aside from that anyone want to guess whether the tires of this Tesla rental were inflated to the correct pressure? EV range is sensitive to tire pressure and the published range is based on tire pressure that is above what Tesla suggest is "comfortable".

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In light of text messages which were made public during a lawsuit against FOX News it should be no surprise that they are abundantly clear as to who their audience is and have an unrelenting drive to give their their audience what it wants to hear.

Aside from that anyone want to guess whether the tires of this Tesla rental were inflated to the correct pressure? EV range is sensitive to tire pressure and the published range is based on tire pressure that is above what Tesla suggest is "comfortable".
If CNN published it would it be any different? Asking for a friend.
 
Here’s the deal. The guy says Tesla says we should have gotten 2x miles. We got1xx miles. The clown never states at what percentage he recharged the battery at. It wasn’t 0 or he’d be on a tow truck.
 
If CNN published it would it be any different? Asking for a friend.
I don't know if CNN would view the final product as ready to publish but you'd have to ask them. The story itself is akin to "How I spontaneously tried and failed to drive my family from Chicago to NY on $100."
 
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pretty well said, the video are recorded facts about a electric vehicle car trip. The discussion that follows are people making excuses for the facts and trying to discredit them but you can’t discredit facts 🤗
The fact of this video is that the driver/reporter put as little forethought into his trip as possible. I don't use my ICE vehicles that way, and I certainly would not use an EV that way.

It's not that hard, but people out here trying to make it look like it's hard. What is their agenda?
 
I lost my car keys and there is no extra set so the locksmith had to come out. Then I drove 500 miles the wrong way because I didn't follow the map. The other car got there before me. Sheesh.

There are lotsa facts; not all are meaningful to every situation. I 100% agree with what this video teaches us: these cars are different; there is a learning curve and are not the best fit for everyone and every use case.
 
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The vast majority of people are not interested in some learning curve, following some screen to find someplace to charge it on the road, they want to get in start it and drive it as far or short as they want and tank it when it needs it at one of the 160,000 gasoline stations. They also have no interest in plugging it in every night.
 
Well, at least we all agree on one thing which is really amazing in BITOG.
We all agree that the OP Fox News video is 100% correct.

As far as excuses, there’s always an excuse when something fails against the competition.
In this case, EV versus ICE vehicle.
One thing I love about facts is you look silly, denying them.

Electric vehicles are specialized vehicles, and not for everybody and all situations.
This video actually serves a purpose for people to properly evaluate what they need in a vehicle should they be considering an electric one.
The video was 100% correct for a contrived scenario where reporter handed a purpose built car and just drove it with limited information. Maybe a rental would be a situation that is similar.

An EV owner not sure they’d take those same steps….
 
The vast majority of people are not interested in some learning curve, following some screen to find someplace to charge it on the road, they want to get in start it and drive it as far or short as they want and tank it when it needs it at one of the 160,000 gasoline stations. They also have no interest in plugging it in every night.

You lost me there. Exactly why would plugging in an EV (or PHEV) every night be that much of a learning curve? It's puzzling to me why you would think that's something so hard to understand. It's the easiest thing to do. Your assertion is like claiming that there would be no interest in plugging in a mobile phone to recharge every day.

My dad is certainly having issues figuring out all the little things on a Tesla Model 3. However, having a 50A outlet installed for a Tesla Mobile Connector made a ton of sense to him. Plugging it in every day is pretty much automatic now. He prefers that to going to a gas station.
 
I lost my car keys and there is no extra set so the locksmith had to come out. Then I drove 500 miles the wrong way because I didn't follow the map. The other car got there before me. Sheesh.

There are lotsa facts; not all are meaningful to every situation. I 100% agree with what this video teaches us: these cars are different; there is a learning curve and are not the best fit for everyone and every use case.
Your problem is that you're taking mature approach taking the nuances into consideration.
This will mean nothing to those who tout as fact what is no more than an example of a user taking a trip in a car he has zero knowledge of with no prior planning.
As the old saying goes, when you fail to plan you plan to fail.
Worked great for this TV personality.
 
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