Teen girls dress like hookers

[nthach]

I used to work at Hollister, and it gets my blood boiling when I see a 8-14 year old walk in, in a mini skirt and a top that barely covers them with Uggs or wearing that Victoria's Secret PINK garbage. My message to all you teeny boppers out there -
Put down the LG Chocolate and iPod
Put down the Starbucks
Stop asking your parents to take you in the mall in their nice new Sienna XLE Limited or Odyssey Touring
and leave the mall stores for us high school and college folk.

No wonder why I have lunch over a nice, cool pint of G-05

Anyways, I think part of the problem is the fact that kids are growing up too [censored] FAST. Second, I blame Hollywood - Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers and Paris Hilton are corrupting kids via MTV and Disney Channel. It's more than [censored] music. I'm 23 for the record.

 

[The Critic]

This thread is going to be interesting. Subscribed.

 

[greenaccord02]

Well put, Reginald.

 

[nthach]

Thank God I work at Honda now - although I'd rather put up with a PMSing 17 year old than a manager on a power trip or the customer from [censored] - read: liberal elite from the Berkeley hills.

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: nthach
Thank God I work at Honda now - although I'd rather put up with a PMSing 17 year old than a manager on a power trip or the customer from [censored] - read: liberal elite from the Berkeley hills.

Berkeley Honda? Around that area? Yup, I know which area you're talking about.

 

[BuickGN]

As bad and nerdy as it sounds, I have actually asked for ID when out at parties. I'm 32 and look pretty young for my age. Some of these girls look 25 and they're 17 or 18. For whatever reason, they seem to be attracted to older guys and it would be very easy to get yourself in trouble without knowing it. If they look under 25, I ask for ID if it's more than a 5 minute conversation. I try and do it in a round about way so as to not insult them.

 

[nthach]

I'm in El Cerrito actually

 

[tdi-rick]

I realise the US is more socially conservative than a lot of the rest of the western world, so here's a FWIW.

I grew up in a conservative family in a conservative town.
I started High School in 1977 and back then most girls wore their dress (in this state all school students wore a uniform, usually distinctive for their school) extremely short, so short it barely covered their bum, and the winter uniform allowed dress slacks and they were often worn so tight nothing was left to the imagination.

My year 7 and 8 English teacher was an ex catwalk model, tall, blonde and German and never wore a bra under her tee shirts and often wore a cheese cloth wrap dress in summer you could see through to her g string (thong).
For swimming the girls wore some pretty revealing bikini's. (the crocheted ones were my favourite

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Every generation seems to bag out the one going after it, so what's changed ?

 

[msparks]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT

I can tell ya this: if I ever have a daughter, there's not a chance she's have clothes like that.

I swear we're going the way of the Romans. It's sad really.


Okay, we will hold you to this.

I'm a father of a 16 year old. It's a daily battle on what she wears. Lately it's been better, but I can't tell you how many times someone thought that she was my girlfriend and not my daughter. These kids just have no clue.

 

[ConfederateTyrant]

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Lately it's been better, but I can't tell you how many times someone thought that she was my girlfriend and not my daughter.

Creepy...

 

[mechtech2]

I have a girlfriend who was an undertaker.
The last straw when she quit the profession was when a car crash victim , a teen age girl, was killed.
Her parents wanted to dress her 'sexy' in the coffin, and this had to be complied with. Low cut skimpy dress.
Nauseating to me , too.

 

[ConfederateTyrant]

Wow, I don't blame your girlfriend for quitting.

 

[Cutehumor]

Originally Posted By: BuickGN
As bad and nerdy as it sounds, I have actually asked for ID when out at parties. I'm 32 and look pretty young for my age. Some of these girls look 25 and they're 17 or 18. For whatever reason, they seem to be attracted to older guys and it would be very easy to get yourself in trouble without knowing it. If they look under 25, I ask for ID if it's more than a 5 minute conversation. I try and do it in a round about way so as to not insult them.


same here.. I'm 31 and people at work think I'm 23 or 24

 

[demarpaint]

I went to HS in the 70's, and remember how girls looked and dressed, it's nothing like today. Listening to stories from my son and nephews my jaw drops in amazement. We had our fair share of girls that dressed like hookers, but nothing like what I see or hear about today. I also think the schools were a little more strict back then.

I think TV advertising, wanting to be popular, peer pressure, competition, envy, wanting to hang out with the coolest guys,,,,,,,, whatever has a very big impact today. Girls that dress like hookers get the most attention from men and boys. Sex sells, you see it everywhere, and the young girls are being programmed at very young ages. But boy do I wish I was young again

 

[GMGuy]

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but nothing like what I see or hear about today. I also think the schools were a little more strict back then.


Don't forget, the kid has rights! (said with sarcasm)

Cross the wrong one and you may be facing dispilinary action yourself for whatever they can come up with. The school system in general is a mine field of dancing between what should be done and avoiding irate parents becuase you infringed on precious little ones rights. Real or imagined. That applies to everything from not passing Little dumb-bottom, to trying to break up a fight.

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corrupting kids via MTV and Disney Channel. It's more than [censored] music. I'm 23 for the record.


Sometime last year MTV showed up here in Canada. I tell ya, the programming on their was an eye opener. What I really got [censored] off with was not so much the dress like a hooker, but the [censored] poor attitude when it came to things in general. Destroy something? Who cares. Break something? Who cares. Take something from somebody? Who cares... etc.

Alex.

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: GMGuy

Sometime last year MTV showed up here in Canada. I tell ya, the programming on their was an eye opener. What I really got [censored] off with was not so much the dress like a hooker, but the [censored] poor attitude when it came to things in general. Destroy something? Who cares. Break something? Who cares. Take something from somebody? Who cares... etc.



Do you get VH1 too? The "reality" shows on these channels are disgusting. They put a bunch of screwed up people together in a house full of alcohol and let them go at it. It's the same basic formula for every show. It degraded to the point that VH1 named one of the shows "I Love Money."

 

[StevieC]

I'm too much of a techie and will not let my future kids watch this stuff. I will be monitoring all that I can in hopes that they turn out like me and have some respect for themselves and others. It's so scary to watch.

 

[benjamming]

Originally Posted By: Reginald

3) You do realize, don't you, that any link between attire and sexuality is artificial and socially constructed? In other words, clothing is neither inherently sexy nor inherently demure. In some times and places, clothing that shows a lot of cleavage has been considered provocative; in other times and places, the same amount of cleavage wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. A tight, slinky dress is the sign of sophisticated high fashion in one time and place, and the mark of a tramp in another. Polynesian women went bare-breasted, and Polynesian men didn't think less of them for it. So an outfit that you think is cheap and sluttish may well have an entirely different meaning to the young person wearing it. I teach at a community college. Many young women come to class wearing push-up bras, blouses with plunging necklines, and skin-tight jeans, short skirts, or gym shorts. Then they write essays arguing for the importance of sexual abstinence until marriage. I'm not kidding. I can only conclude that they and I have entirely different interpretations of those bras and blouses.


I don't buy this one. Sure clothing itself is amoral but it is still not good for the person. Clothing that leaves nothing to the imagination is the same in every setting (sophisticated, slums, bedroom, etc.) whether appropriate or not. When it is appropriate needs to be defined & followed. It appears that many define appropriate differently that I do.

If you believe that clothing has a different meaning to those girls wearing it, then naivety abounds.

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

This thread is useless without photos.

 

[JHZR2]

I have to agree on the television issues as a main driver.

At 28, I am as appalled as the other folks my age who have been making comments. Growing up, we never had cable. Going to college, you turn on MTV or VH1, and you see a whole new world. This is a world outside of typical rebelious teenage "fun", it is a world of terrible attitudes, of "hand it to me", behaviors, etc. Ill admit that in college, it was great to go to clubs and see the girls dressed in a skimpy way... It was great, it is great. But they were college age and thus adults. There is a HUGE difference when it is 14 year olds.

I fully agree that to the generation before, the next generation has "degraded" and is doing "worse" things. However, it is the attitudes that are held these days that are the root of the more severe degradation that we see.

I believe it has a lot to do with the recent bubbles, easy credit, and credit card lifestyles that people have been living more and more. Want it? Get it. Can't afford it? Charge it. See it on TV and covet it, buy it. After all, you deserve it even if you never have done an ounce of utilitarian work ever.

So you combine an idolization of the worst 1% (who likely have always been there, but never before have been seen), a "gimmie" society that gets everything quick and easy (even if it means financial detriment down the line), and a model that combines showy "high society" behaviors with designer brands, lots of stores that sell this stuff, and cheap, easy credit, and you get what we have.

IMO, the difference with the "most modern" group of kids is that they have no real responsibility. Even with mom and dad working (which makes it easy to provide their kids with more unnecessary and overpriced junk), they have no slack to pick up around the house. Yard work? Snow shoveling? Cooking? Cleaning? Nope... always an excuse or something to do. Get free money, a TV-based babysitter, and no real responsibility for chores or home efforts, and kids just get a lap of luxury.

I guess my point is that due to cheap credit, two parents working (more expendable income and less supervision), TV shows that publicize and flaunt the worst of the worst, entertainers (particularly rap people) who show the need for "bling" and bikini babes, etc., you have a group that can be influenced and yet live in a relative lap of luxury.

It is the "luxury" that people have that let them behave in greatly different behavior, and be aware to more of the world around. When youre not taking all your time with chores, and have more information and available money without real accountability, things change and modify at a greatly hastened pace.