dragboat: Go by your local VW dealer and pick up a quart. It's Group III and smells like oil to me.
Syntec 0-30 is "Made in Germany"...
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They must have worked on it some ?
To answer your question on the 5/40 it is at our largest independent wholesaler of Castrol oils and headed to the Auto Parts Houses ect I heard and it might be near 6 bucks a quart
From the Castrol site:
SAE 0W-30: Is for winter conditions. Exceeds European ACEA: A1 and all requirements of ILSAC GF-3 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils and meets Energy Conserving Standards
[ February 05, 2003, 08:17 AM: Message edited by: dragboat ]
Yeah, the website is not up-to-date. In fact, yesterday I email Castrol and the reply was: "We don't have specs on oils sold outside of N.A.". Retards...had to tell them that it was sold here.
It's the 0-30 with the NEW green/fancy labels with the large classic/new Castrol logo...look at the back label...it's different than last week's Syntec 0-30.
It's the 0-30 with the NEW green/fancy labels with the large classic/new Castrol logo...look at the back label...it's different than last week's Syntec 0-30.
saw some at the walmart here, says 'imported from germany for castrol canada inc'
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I spotted some today at the Walmart on Airport Road/Queen Street in Brampton! They also had the old 0w30 there too, which said made in USA, and didn't list all the same specs on the back (such as BMW long life, ACEA A3, etc.)
So this oil is for sure PAO/ester and not group 3 then?
Now I have to figure out which car to test it out in (my mom's? my sister's?)
[ February 08, 2003, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Patman ]
So this oil is for sure PAO/ester and not group 3 then?
Now I have to figure out which car to test it out in (my mom's? my sister's?)
[ February 08, 2003, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Patman ]
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Ever since I spotted this oil today I've been thinking about it. I must be the most indecisive person when it comes to the oil I am going to run in my mom and sister's cars! But I think I finally have the plan!
I will use the GTX 5w30 I bought for my sister, in my mom's car. She only drove 600 miles since I changed her oil before Christmas, so her car would do fine with GTX changed twice a year. I will now go with the Castrol 0w30 in my sister's car starting with her upcoming oil change in a few weeks. The first interval will be 6k, the next interval I will run out to the fall, whatever the mileage ends up being (it'll probably be 10k+) Then depending on how I like the results, I will probably go with a twice a year (or three times) interval with her. She drives about 500 miles a week.
I just hope Castrol plans on continuing to sell this oil up here, and it wasn't a mistake and we're only going to find small samples of it in obscure locations.
I just hope Castrol plans on continuing to sell this oil up here, and it wasn't a mistake and we're only going to find small samples of it in obscure locations.
Who wants to bet $20 that Castrol, N.A. ONLY sells this oil in Canada? Well never see it here in good ole' "know-it-all", "we're the best period", and "always right" U.S. of A! Sorry for the sarcasm, had to let it out.
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You guys are just going to have to all move north to keep me company up here!
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What about the "made in USA" Syntec 0w30 though? It's group 3, isn't it? Looking at the specs on it's bottles here though, it's not impressive, it doesn't show all the ones that the made in Germany 0w30 shows.
It's been reported than when Castrol first went to Group III, the base oil they used was Shell's XHVI. So I suppose it's possible that the 0w30 made in the US could still use that base oil. I would suspect, however, that Castrol ran the numbers and figured it was cheaper in the long run to import the European 0w30 than to keep producing the Group III product here. Plus, the European 0w30 has better numbers and can come closer to competing with Mobil 1 0w30 than the Group III product could.
this is a babelfish translation off the german site:
Just as a matter of discussion regarding Castrol oil sources and production. Has anyone here in the U.S. ever driven by a Castrol refinery? Right, there are none... Every drop of Castrol product produced here in the U.S. is made and bottled by someone other than Castrol for Castrol. So, yes, Castrol products may indeed come from just about anywhere, made by just about anyone from just about any base stocks!!
It would certainly be an interesting project for someone to undertake although it would take CIA level undercove to define just who is making what oil and where they are blended for Castrol. It would be a most enlightening discovery paper indeed!
It would certainly be an interesting project for someone to undertake although it would take CIA level undercove to define just who is making what oil and where they are blended for Castrol. It would be a most enlightening discovery paper indeed!
Castrol's refineries in the U. S. process more than 1.5 million barrels of crude oil daily...of course, those refineries have the parent company's name on them--BP. BP is big in the lubricants business in Europe, not very big in the U. S.
It doesn't matter to me if BP's Castrol USA unit buys base material or makes it. As long as they put out an excellent product with consistency and fair price, I'm OK with that. Schaeffer doesn't refine oil, neither does Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, who else....
I don't use Castrol Syntec (Gr-III), but their imported stuff with the ACEA A3 rating sounds like it's worth a close look.
Ken
It doesn't matter to me if BP's Castrol USA unit buys base material or makes it. As long as they put out an excellent product with consistency and fair price, I'm OK with that. Schaeffer doesn't refine oil, neither does Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, who else....
I don't use Castrol Syntec (Gr-III), but their imported stuff with the ACEA A3 rating sounds like it's worth a close look.
Ken
Patman
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What are the technical specs on this oil though? I couldn't find anything in a search on the Castrol website Ken posted above.
DR T and others that are interested I have dug a small amount of information up about the Castrol Syntec 5/40
VI @ 100C 12.80
cP @ -25C 3300 Max
HTHS 4.5
Pour Point -33C
ZN 1.0 percent wt
Phos 0.09 " "
Flash Point 405 F
Sulfur % wt 0.25
Vi Index 175
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No VI @ 40C,no MRV ,his is all I recieved. Now out of curiosity I would like to see the updated specs of their 0/30
Their are some new 5/40's coming if not already available that should be a buck or so less a quart than this oil.
I would like to see some analysis of them.
[ February 10, 2003, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: dragboat ]
VI @ 100C 12.80
cP @ -25C 3300 Max
HTHS 4.5
Pour Point -33C
ZN 1.0 percent wt
Phos 0.09 " "
Flash Point 405 F
Sulfur % wt 0.25
Vi Index 175
TBN 11
No VI @ 40C,no MRV ,his is all I recieved. Now out of curiosity I would like to see the updated specs of their 0/30
Their are some new 5/40's coming if not already available that should be a buck or so less a quart than this oil.
I would like to see some analysis of them.
[ February 10, 2003, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: dragboat ]
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That looks like a very interesting oil Dragboat! HTHS of 4.5 is very impressive, especially for a thin 40wt. That's actually the thinnest 40wt oil I've seen. I think that oil would work perfectly in an LT1 or LS1 engine.
I think an overlooked oil in the Syntec line is the 10/40/ It has the A3/B3 spec and is a High 30wt @ 13.2 @ 100C,,well a bit over a 30 wt but I think it would run circles around the Syntec 10/30 which is a A1/B1 oil and the VI @ 100C is 10.0 for the same price.HT/HS of the 10/40 is 3.8 vs 3.1 for the 10/30,,pretty dang good for a relatively light wt 40.
But with other oils available I doubt ole dragboat will ever see first hand how any of the Syntecs perform other than through analysis posted on this forum
But with other oils available I doubt ole dragboat will ever see first hand how any of the Syntecs perform other than through analysis posted on this forum
Regarding the Castrol U.S. Blending facilities.. Yes, it is just that the Castrol facilities are located inside ExxonMobil, Chevron, Petro Canada buildings! 
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