Well, I guess SuperTech needs to up their advertising game so it can become equal to Mobil1.
Which oil do you think is better?
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In that regard I’m quite sure Walmart has an adequate advertising budget. That’s the point of a house brand you don’t need to advertise for it separate from the parent company.
Which one makes you blush?
I think your missing the humor of my post's. Lighten up a little...
BMW updated their LL-01 approval for added the needs of 2019+ engines and, to my knowledge and research, there are no 0w-XX oils that carry it anymore. Any 0w-XX oils that held that approval until that change, I wouldn't hesitate to use in an older model BMW. As others have mentioned, Castrol 0w-40, Mobil 1 0w-40, QS Euro 5w-40 are all great choices. Castrol and Mobil would be the overall cheapest with the rebates available now. QS Euro is probably the best bang for the buck LL-01 approved oil right now. Some Walmart's have it on clearance, I snagged some 5L jugs over the weekend for as low as $8. So it may not be sticking around for long.
Most euro 0w40 and 5w40 oils are light, barely in the 40 wt range with an HTHS viscosity of 3.6-3.7 which rivals a 10w30 or even some 5w30. 40 wt is very broad depending on oil composition.
A euro 5w40/0w40 can have a HTHS of 3.6 cP while an HD 5w40 can have an HTHS of 4.3+ cP. A 15w40 HD oil can have an HTHS up to 5.2 cP which matches Castrol Edge TWS 10w60.
Basically I’d be more concerned with the HTHS than the oil weight because it’s more relevant to the discussion on an engine which is prone to bearing failure.
So higher HTHS is what you're recommending? and that requires higher grade oil "like" Edge TWS which is what many other people believe is too thick for tight bearing clearance....
do you happen yo know what the base stock for TWS is?
HTHS is the viscosity at the bearings, is more critical than the “actual viscosity” which is influenced by other factors like VI and density.
As I was saying, Redline 5w30 has the same HTHS as a euro 0w40 or 5w40 oil. RLI 15w40 has the same HTHS as Castrol TWS 10w60.
The base oil of TWS 10w60 is irrelevant. You can check the SDS to see what it lists.
Figure out what HTHS you want and then decide which oil will meet the price and performance goals you’re aiming for.
Well, the viscosity is probably zero if it's not flowing there during cold starts.
But mostly... I have no idea what HTHS I want. Because I'm not knowledgeable enough to come up with a preference. Higher than TWS definitely seems counter intuitive
I was asking about the base stock out of curiosity. It's just so mysterious...
Anyways, thank you. Feel free to share your choice of oil if you were in my situation.
They all do, I'm a slut.
There is an oil film left on parts after shutdown. It’s not “dry” unless the oil film is removed.
from what I understand, TWS 10w60 was a band-aid due to an engineering failure with this engine. If that’s the case, then I would use a heavier oil than the original specification. If you think 10w60 or HTHS of 5.2 cP is too heavy for your use and ambient temperature than try something in between. Redline HP 5w40 and 0w40 are both heavy 40 wt oils. Another option is Rowe 0w40 which is also a heavy Euro 0w40. These all have an HTHS 4.0+ cP.
Once you choose an oil you can monitor the bearing metals with oil analysis to see if it’s working for you.
Oil film is what keeps parts separated, if there is metal-to-metal contact then wear occurs. It's really not possible to have too high of a MOFT. But of course in this case you're only trying to sweep a much bigger problem under the rug by using a certain oil. On the other hand it's not going to hurt no matter what you consider counter intuitive.
And unless you are starting well below 0F then an oil with a 10W winter rating will pump. It's not about flow it's about pumpability. You're really stuck on misconceptions about oil "flow" and viscosity in this thread, if you're not starting at pretty cold temperatures then there is zero concern about a 10W-60 oil. None.
Stunning engine. There was a coupe for sale near me at Audi of Stratham with that engine and a 6 speed.
I was tempted - but concerned.
So, I passed on this opportunity. Now I will ne'r hear those glorious v10 sounds.
I have the coupe! In SMG
You never know with these cars. My particular one seems no more troublesome than your average bmw but my mileage is low
I love my but I'm biased...
And i only get 12mpg so don't feel too bad
Do you base that on perception or do you have any facts to show that Mobil 1 is somehow superior? I like Mobil 1 EP their 10w30 high mileage and their euro FS formulation And I have used that last one quite alot.
What exactly makes Mobil 1 a tier above?
Exactly and they need to make a fancy bottle, that will make the oil perform above and beyond.
What about HT/FS in tight clearance regions? I think HT/HS is irrelevant in these area. Unless you use a monograde.
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It uses better base oils? Mobil makes tiers of oils for a reason. They do make less expensive Group III based offerings with a similar approach as Supertech/Amazon Basics, and these are sold at a lower price.
Pick the one that explicitly state LL approval. Other jibberish doesn't count especially as far as warranty and lawyers exist.
