SUV driver runs over bikers

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Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
More info. Miss Domenech is an idiot. The people to blame for her nephew's hospitalization are not the people in the Range Rover, but the people who tried to attack the occupants of the Range Rover.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/...over-chase?lite


Now hang on a second...

If he was not a threat then the driver of the SUV had no right to injure him.

So it is really your position that running over someone checking on a downed rider is acceptable behavior?

WOW...



The poor guy who was run over MAY HAVE been tending to his fallen comrade. He MAY HAVE been banging his hands on the hood and yelling for the RR driver to get out so he can beat him up.
 
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
More info. Miss Domenech is an idiot. The people to blame for her nephew's hospitalization are not the people in the Range Rover, but the people who tried to attack the occupants of the Range Rover.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/...over-chase?lite


Now hang on a second...

If he was not a threat then the driver of the SUV had no right to injure him.

So it is really your position that running over someone checking on a downed rider is acceptable behavior?

WOW...



The poor guy who was run over MAY HAVE been tending to his fallen comrade. He MAY HAVE been banging his hands on the hood and yelling for the RR driver to get out so he can beat him up.


Right...

Can't really tell from the video what exactly was going on ...

However if he ran over a downed rider and/or someone checking on a downed rider he is in a pickle...
 
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
More info. Miss Domenech is an idiot. The people to blame for her nephew's hospitalization are not the people in the Range Rover, but the people who tried to attack the occupants of the Range Rover.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/...over-chase?lite


Now hang on a second...

If he was not a threat then the driver of the SUV had no right to injure him.

So it is really your position that running over someone checking on a downed rider is acceptable behavior?

WOW...



The poor guy who was run over MAY HAVE been tending to his fallen comrade. He MAY HAVE been banging his hands on the hood and yelling for the RR driver to get out so he can beat him up.



Correct. Also, it doesn't matter whether or not he was tending to his friend when he was run over, since his 28 hooligan cohorts were trying to harm the RR driver.

Tending to your injured criminal friend doesn't give you any brownie points in my book.
 
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Originally Posted By: mitsuman47
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
More info. Miss Domenech is an idiot. The people to blame for her nephew's hospitalization are not the people in the Range Rover, but the people who tried to attack the occupants of the Range Rover.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/...over-chase?lite


Now hang on a second...

If he was not a threat then the driver of the SUV had no right to injure him.

So it is really your position that running over someone checking on a downed rider is acceptable behavior?

WOW...



The poor guy who was run over MAY HAVE been tending to his fallen comrade. He MAY HAVE been banging his hands on the hood and yelling for the RR driver to get out so he can beat him up.



Correct. Also, it doesn't matter whether or not he was tending to his friend when he was run over, since his 28 hooligan cohorts were trying to harm the RR driver.

Tending to your injured criminal friend doesn't give you any brownie points in my book.


I'm not sure the law in any state in the union will agree with you...
 
Moral of the story, be mindful of the company you keep.

Hang with lawless reckless morons bad things can and will happen.

If for some outrageously impossible reason I had been riding with those fools, I would have kept a safe distance from it all, as many of them did.
 
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
More info. Miss Domenech is an idiot. The people to blame for her nephew's hospitalization are not the people in the Range Rover, but the people who tried to attack the occupants of the Range Rover.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/...over-chase?lite


Now hang on a second...

If he was not a threat then the driver of the SUV had no right to injure him.

So it is really your position that running over someone checking on a downed rider is acceptable behavior?

WOW...



If the criminal idiot that was run over hadn't stopped in the middle of the FREAKING INTERSTATE and blocked traffic with all his hooligan brothers, maybe he would not be paralyzed and in the hospital. Screw him. I hope he enjoys his life without the use of his legs and/or arms. Idiot got what he deserved as far as I'm concerned. No sympathy for scum bags.

I would be extremely surprised if the police brought charges against the SUV driver. He didn't bring this on the bikers, they brought it on themselves. He just wanted to be left alone.
 
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
If the criminal idiot that was run over hadn't stopped in the middle of the FREAKING INTERSTATE and blocked traffic with all his hooligan brothers, maybe he would not be paralyzed and in the hospital. Screw him. I hope he enjoys his life without the use of his legs and/or arms. Idiot got what he deserved as far as I'm concerned. No sympathy for scum bags.

I would be extremely surprised if the police brought charges against the SUV driver. He didn't bring this on the bikers, they brought it on themselves. He just wanted to be left alone.

But the one who stopped in front of him isn't the one paralyzed...
 
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
But the one who stopped in front of him isn't the one paralyzed...

How is RR driver supposed to differentiate the actions/motives of 30 reckless boneheads. He had crazy stuff going on all around him, and his fight or flight kicked in.

'...ONLY way to protect my family...'
 
Originally Posted By: mitsuman47
How is RR driver supposed to differentiate the actions/motives of 30 reckless boneheads. He had crazy stuff going on all around him, and his fight or flight kicked in.

'...ONLY way to protect my family...'


So it is OK with you if he runs over someone walking down the sidewalk? How about a paramedic? Doctor that got out of the car next to him to help the injured rider...?

You simply can't disregard the safety of people who are not actively engaged in criminal activity...

Bet he ends up charged, even if he doesn't he will be ruined in civil court...
 
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Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
More info. Miss Domenech is an idiot. The people to blame for her nephew's hospitalization are not the people in the Range Rover, but the people who tried to attack the occupants of the Range Rover.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/...over-chase?lite


Now hang on a second...

If he was not a threat then the driver of the SUV had no right to injure him.

So it is really your position that running over someone checking on a downed rider is acceptable behavior?

WOW...



So it would have been more acceptable that he sacrifice himself and his family because an idiot thought it was a good idea to get in front of a truck while his friends dragged the family out of it and beat them?

WOW...
 
No it would have been more acceptable if he had made a getaway without running over people who were not a threat to him at the moment...
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Originally Posted By: Fleetmon
I meant it is surprising the NYCP hasn't done anything up until now....most average citizens would be caught within blocks of their house with no registration plates or expired inspection stickers....it's quite obvious the police didn't WANT to do anything about it.....can't say I blame them either since their dispatcher would have sent one car with two officers to "investigate".

Do away with Bloomberg and do away with most of the city's ills!

But, you're right, with no plates to identify them the punks are fair game as far as I'm concerned.


Actually, NYC has been doing a lot about it since 2005.

They started putting random checkpoints all around NYC, where anyone on a motorcycle, no matter what they are doing, is forced to pull over, provide all their documents (license, registration, insurance, etc), and has their bike looked over with a fine tooth comb until the police determine one of two things:

The bike is completely stock, and the rider is fully documented, and released, or;

The rider is missing something, or the bike is not stock, and is then impounded. Even if the rider is fully insured, and it's in the system, if the rider has an expired insurance or registration card on him, and presents it to the officer, even if the officer's computer system shows that the bike is currently registered and insured, they will impound and damage your motorcycle.

This has been happening since 2005 when I started randomly getting pulled over on my way to work when I was in the middle of stop and go traffic, time and time again, just blocks away from my office building.

After the third time it happened in a week, I asked the officer what's going on, and he said there's a change in police policy about motorcyclists in NYC, and that I should get used to being pulled over from now on, even if I didn't do anything wrong at all, like I hadn't 3 different times in the same week.

I lucked out, and moved out of NYC a year after this stuff started happening.

So, NYC is doing something about the motorcycle issue you want them to fix, the only problem is that they are not able to be everywhere at the same time that the bad motorcyclists are.

BC.
 
Yeah he sounds like a really nice boy, that guy. What a joke his wife is saying he 'went over to help' - probably went over to start/join the attack. The Facebook page she created for him is being bombarded with comments lashing back against that lie
Thugs!

Would've been better if the thug who really brake checked the SUV got paralyzed - but looking at other videos ALL of these morons deserve it, after what they did.
 
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
More info. Miss Domenech is an idiot. The people to blame for her nephew's hospitalization are not the people in the Range Rover, but the people who tried to attack the occupants of the Range Rover.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/...over-chase?lite


Now hang on a second...

If he was not a threat then the driver of the SUV had no right to injure him.

So it is really your position that running over someone checking on a downed rider is acceptable behavior?

WOW...



So it would have been more acceptable that he sacrifice himself and his family because an idiot thought it was a good idea to get in front of a truck while his friends dragged the family out of it and beat them?

WOW...


No it would have been more acceptable if he had made a getaway without running over people who were not a threat to him at the moment...
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I heard bits and pieces of this story. I'm wondering if the driver of the SUV could have exited safely and taken another route?
 
Originally Posted By: Cristobal
I think that New York City should enact a law about this: that any group of three or more motorcycle riders, in motion on any street, within 30 meters of one another, should individually be subject to a fine of $10,000.00.

To enforce it and fund it, I also would not mind it at all if taxes be raised, and raised a lot, on certain classes of motorcycle and certain types of motorcycle equipment, such as helmets.


Are you being sarcastic, or serious?
I can't tell.

But please, tell us what classes of motorcycles you think should be subject to these fines?

I'm going to tell you right now that I've owned every style of motorcycle over the years (cruisers, sport bikes, touring bikes, standards, etc), and I don't think I like your ridiculous idea one little bit, so I hope you were just being sarcastic.

I'm also going to wait until you answer about the first part if you are serious or not.

BC.
 
Originally Posted By: Win
Crotch rockets, quads, dirt bikes, a freakshow of punks.

I wonder which one is the Toe Cutter?


I'm sorry, but are you referring to me?

BC.
 
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
No it would have been more acceptable if he had made a getaway without running over people who were not a threat to him at the moment...
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I'm sure that nobody in that situation has enough presence of mind to do anything other than what he did. I'm sure I wouldn't have.

If you're associated with a gang that's attacking me and my family, and you're in between me and safety, I will not hesitate to kill you if that's what it takes to get away. I don't care if I have to shoot you, beat you with a brick, or stab you in the face with a Range Rover, my family comes before a bunch of thugs on motorcycles.
 
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Mykl
More info. Miss Domenech is an idiot. The people to blame for her nephew's hospitalization are not the people in the Range Rover, but the people who tried to attack the occupants of the Range Rover.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/...over-chase?lite


Now hang on a second...

If he was not a threat then the driver of the SUV had no right to injure him.

So it is really your position that running over someone checking on a downed rider is acceptable behavior?

WOW...



So it would have been more acceptable that he sacrifice himself and his family because an idiot thought it was a good idea to get in front of a truck while his friends dragged the family out of it and beat them?

WOW...


No it would have been more acceptable if he had made a getaway without running over people who were not a threat to him at the moment...
confused.gif



Apparently, you've either: 1. Never been in a fight/flight situation, or 2. You are a badmofo who can completely/correctly analyze any situation that you encounter...and with lightning speed none-the-less.

With all of the chaos around him at the time, there is no way he could have predicted the intent of everyone around him.
 
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I don't normally watch it but the CBS evening news had the story on this and from what I could see, the motorcycle mob caused all of the trouble.

They talked to someone from I think the police regarding the bunch and from what I heard,they actually knew that the group was going to do their stunt riding.

This group and others like them do stunt riding on highway/interstate roads and are very dangerous. The news showed a clip of riders from another state and one was riding a wheelie on a major highway.

This could well have been a very tragic thing, they pulled the driver from his vehicle and he could have ended up dead.

It is bad that some were hurt but considering what was happening, I don't know that I can fault what the driver did.

I and my Mom were actually followed one night seeral years ago by a car.Were were driving home one night from church,a car passedc us going the opposite direction.It got just past us and turned around.

I didnt do anything to make them turn around,I didnt know them or their car.

It then followed us,the faster I went the faster it went.It acted quite aggressive.I was able to get ahead of it enough to turn off and lose them.

It was not a good feeling,it was a dark country road and there was no where to go until I got close to the town where we live.

When you are in that kind of situation,you dont think about being poliye,you think about keeping you and those with you,safe.
 
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