Super Tech and 95 Camry OCI

[diver1972]

Originally Posted By: diver1972
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
You could probably go 15k with m1 ep with a good filter.
At least! IMO, with his annual mileage and assuming a reasonable number of cold starts across those miles, I'd just change it annually.
Scratch that, I erroneously recalled his annual miles as being lower when I wrote that.

 

[BISCUT]

Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: BISCUT
Thanks...yes it was originally owned and garaged by my aunt. She didn't drive much and when she passed it on to my grandfather he was already late 80's. He also garaged and didn't drive much. Only concern was some varnish as most trips were darn short. Now it sees 12miles or more just about every trip.


Considering it's one the most reliable cars ever made and yours is well cared for...it might outlive the both of us!


What's crazy, at least to me is how smooth the motor/trans are. It is, after all, 18 years old. And I have to admit, it grew on me and I totally enjoy driving it.

 

[BISCUT]

Originally Posted By: diver1972
Originally Posted By: diver1972
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
You could probably go 15k with m1 ep with a good filter.
At least! IMO, with his annual mileage and assuming a reasonable number of cold starts across those miles, I'd just change it annually.
Scratch that, I erroneously recalled his annual miles as being lower when I wrote that.


I'm just getting comfortable with extended OCI's. For now, on ST synthetic I'm going the route of 7k. Basically 3 changes a year.

 

[Art_Vandelay]

Originally Posted By: BISCUT
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: BISCUT
Thanks...yes it was originally owned and garaged by my aunt. She didn't drive much and when she passed it on to my grandfather he was already late 80's. He also garaged and didn't drive much. Only concern was some varnish as most trips were darn short. Now it sees 12miles or more just about every trip.


Considering it's one the most reliable cars ever made and yours is well cared for...it might outlive the both of us!


What's crazy, at least to me is how smooth the motor/trans are. It is, after all, 18 years old. And I have to admit, it grew on me and I totally enjoy driving it.


Yeah that generation Camry/Lexus ES 300 really marks the point in time where Toyota became the brand, against which, all others are measured (in terms of quality and dependability per dollar).
It's the car that every auto manufacturer in the world wished it could make. But couldn't.
The Honda Accord certainly came the closest. But if we're talking automatic transmissions then the Camry stands alone. A lot of Camrys still have their original transmissions with very high miles. Considering a trans replacement is often equal to the entire value of the car (after a certain point)I'd have to say that there have been very few cars ever made that can touch it, for value per dollar, over long term ownership.

 

[diver1972]

Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
You'll get 300,000 miles out of it if you keep it that long.

Assuming the current annual miles persist through the next decade, that would be 300k miles at age 28. The age to miles combo would be pretty impressive.

My car's current trajectory, assuming lots of things, is passing 300k miles at age 26 in 2024, the year my daughter will be legally eligible to drive. Hmmm...I smell a hand-me-down.

 

[BISCUT]

Originally Posted By: diver1972

You'll get 300,000 miles out of it if you keep it that long.

Assuming the current annual miles persist through the next decade, that would be 300k miles at age 28. The age to miles combo would be pretty impressive.

My car's current trajectory, assuming lots of things, is passing 300k miles at age 26 in 2024, the year my daughter will be legally eligible to drive. Hmmm...I smell a hand-me-down. [/quote

Age to miles sure would be impressive.

 

[BISCUT]

Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: BISCUT
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: BISCUT
Thanks...yes it was originally owned and garaged by my aunt. She didn't drive much and when she passed it on to my grandfather he was already late 80's. He also garaged and didn't drive much. Only concern was some varnish as most trips were darn short. Now it sees 12miles or more just about every trip.


Considering it's one the most reliable cars ever made and yours is well cared for...it might outlive the both of us!


What's crazy, at least to me is how smooth the motor/trans are. It is, after all, 18 years old. And I have to admit, it grew on me and I totally enjoy driving it.


Yeah that generation Camry/Lexus ES 300 really marks the point in time where Toyota became the brand, against which, all others are measured (in terms of quality and dependability per dollar).
It's the car that every auto manufacturer in the world wished it could make. But couldn't.
The Honda Accord certainly came the closest. But if we're talking automatic transmissions then the Camry stands alone. A lot of Camrys still have their original transmissions with very high miles. Considering a trans replacement is often equal to the entire value of the car (after a certain point)I'd have to say that there have been very few cars ever made that can touch it, for value per dollar, over long term ownership.


Since I know it went about 16 years and 68k without a trans service I have done a few pan drops and filter changes. Factory gasket required a lot of scraping to get the gasket off. Repalced filter and filled with MaxLife. Did it at 68k, 76k, and 90k so far. Will do again at 100k. Fluid is now a nice red color. Likes the MaLife; very smooth.

 

[SargeBB]

Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: BISCUT
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: BISCUT
Thanks...yes it was originally owned and garaged by my aunt. She didn't drive much and when she passed it on to my grandfather he was already late 80's. He also garaged and didn't drive much. Only concern was some varnish as most trips were darn short. Now it sees 12miles or more just about every trip.


Considering it's one the most reliable cars ever made and yours is well cared for...it might outlive the both of us!


What's crazy, at least to me is how smooth the motor/trans are. It is, after all, 18 years old. And I have to admit, it grew on me and I totally enjoy driving it.


Yeah that generation Camry/Lexus ES 300 really marks the point in time where Toyota became the brand, against which, all others are measured (in terms of quality and dependability per dollar).
It's the car that every auto manufacturer in the world wished it could make. But couldn't.
The Honda Accord certainly came the closest. But if we're talking automatic transmissions then the Camry stands alone. A lot of Camrys still have their original transmissions with very high miles. Considering a trans replacement is often equal to the entire value of the car (after a certain point)I'd have to say that there have been very few cars ever made that can touch it, for value per dollar, over long term ownership.
I agree completely. I bought my 1996 V6 Camry new in 1996. It now has 290,000+ miles and I still drive it on 3,000 to 4,000 mile trips. Original transmission & engine. Many of the miles are Interstate at 80+ mph. No oil usage. These are truly 'benchmark,' cars. Mine still has the original muffler and struts! Furthermore, I agree with the OCI and A/T change intervals the original poster is following on his 4-cyl. Concerning the A/T, I simply drain the pan every other engine oil change (appx. 2 1/2 qts)--- the Mobil 1 ATF is still red & replace with the same brand. OCI appx. 6,000 miles, M-1 10W-40 in this West TX/Eastern NM heat and dust. AND, I actually believe those 92-96 Camrys are better cars than the new Camrys. If we're going on a long trip and my wife is going to do most of the driving, we go in her new Camry V6 XLE, but if I'm going to drive, we go in the '96...too much fancy stuff on the new car for me. The new car does have better headlights...

 

[steve20]

"""For now, on ST synthetic I'm going the route of 7k. Basically 3 changes a year."""

sounds like the perfect plan.
I had a 92 4 cyl like yours----went to 190K until a truck totalled it.
As it got older didn't burn any oil until the oil was it it for 2K miles. Then from 2-5K it burned a quart.
Great cars!!

 

[Art_Vandelay]

Originally Posted By: SargeBB
I agree completely. I bought my 1996 V6 Camry new in 1996. It now has 290,000+ miles and I still drive it on 3,000 to 4,000 mile trips. Original transmission & engine. Many of the miles are Interstate at 80+ mph. No oil usage. These are truly 'benchmark,' cars. Mine still has the original muffler and struts! Furthermore, I agree with the OCI and A/T change intervals the original poster is following on his 4-cyl. Concerning the A/T, I simply drain the pan every other engine oil change (appx. 2 1/2 qts)--- the Mobil 1 ATF is still red & replace with the same brand. OCI appx. 6,000 miles, M-1 10W-40 in this West TX/Eastern NM heat and dust. AND, I actually believe those 92-96 Camrys are better cars than the new Camrys. If we're going on a long trip and my wife is going to do most of the driving, we go in her new Camry V6 XLE, but if I'm going to drive, we go in the '96...too much fancy stuff on the new car for me. The new car does have better headlights...


Not many people see 290,000 miles out of an automatic transmission. It's quite a piece of equipment. That's for sure.
The 92-96 Camry is a very unique vehicle in that it was a consequence of the ultra-ambitious Lexus program. It is essentially a downgraded ES 300 (as opposed to the ES 300 being an upgraded Camry). The seams on the car are so precise you wouldn't expect to see them on something twice the price. Turn the steering wheel lock to lock and it remains completely on axis. Not a millimeter of deviation. It also possesses an unusually refined design. Does a '92 really look like a 21 year old car?

No one had ever seen a $15,000 car like that before. Toyota shook the entire auto industry with that platform.

 

[CharBaby]

My SIL/BIL bought a new '95 Camry XLE 4 cyl. I still see these 92-96 Camry's on the road here in salty winterd NY State and they bearly have any rust on them. Ammmmaaaazzzing!
They put on 200K miles in 9 years on the '95 and traded it in on a new '04 Camry LE 4 cyl which they still have for their son. It too is nearing the 200K mark.

They don't do anything to their car in terms of PM, just OCI's and brakes or whatever little the car requires in minor reapirs. And, I mean minor!

 

[cutter]

For the OP

 

[BISCUT]

Thank yuo CUTTER.

There she is in all her glory.