Corolla or Mazda3. Both very reliable and get great MPG's. With the Mazda3 you get a lot of extras that you'd think would be on a more expensive car.....so a good value in my opinion.
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A base model Malibu can be had brand new for around 25K. As long as a turbo and CVT doesn’t bother you. Mine is getting around 33 MPG right now with mixed driving. It is as comfortable as any base model economy car can be I suppose. The handling is good and the 1.5T has nice pep. I wish Ford still made the Fusion because I’d rather that. But the Malibu is a reasonable sedan at a reasonable price point for sure.
Thank you. OP admittedly has been out of the new car market for ten years. Meanwhile posters on here on posting MSRP's of vehicles that may or may not exist-and then you have dealer add ons once you arrive at the dealership.
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The days of walking in and haggling are over. I don't waste my time unless I have an invoice from the manager in my inbox before driving down with a price I agreed on. Its literally not worth anyone's time.
Don't understand how these budget junk ice cars can compete now when just driving up north one hour picking up a tesla model 3 for 35k NEW from TESLA and 12 months of free supercharging with a code and 7500 tax credit, is an option. After taxes and fees and the credit I would be at 29,000 even. Insane. I paid 21,500 out the door for my camry brand new in 2017. Now you can't find one under 28k new for a base model...
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Elantra, Sonata, Corolla, Jetta, Civic.
I figured msrp was more accurate than a link to a vehicle that is probably 1000 miles from the OPs location.
Every experience is different but with our purchase at a CDJR dealership everything we paid was in the window sticker that was printed when we ordered, including the destination and delivery charge. They offered extended warranty and Xzillon which I turned do.
Every experience is different but with our purchase at a CDJR dealership everything we paid was in the window sticker that was printed when we ordered, including the destination and delivery charge. They offered extended warranty and Xzillon which I turned do.
We'll find out, I guess the oned built in China would have some fatter profit margins for putting good quality components into it, but most are from Korea and production costs there would be pretty close to here I would think. So we've got a high stress engine in a budget vehicle.
I think that engine better have some good engineering, parts quality selection, manufacturing, and QC, to live long and prosper in that application. We will find out if GM did that or cut some corners.
What I don't get, is that the end product doesn't really get good mileage anyways? A simple low tech 2.0L NA motor would probably perform almost exactly the same, but at a couple hundred rpm higher, and have much less to go wrong.
New Mazda3 has a great interior.
For real! It seems none of them want to "keep it simple, stupid" anymore. Notice my signature. I have three relatively new vehicles, all NA, and I hope to not buy another vehicle for a long, long, looooong time just because of this.
maverick ?
Maybe in some markets, but not everywhere. Forum members love to post on here when they bought something below MSRP; who was it the other day saying he got a Civic below MSRP? Americans love their big trucks and SUVs and the dealers mark them up sky high but at the end of the model year the base model sedans are blown out below MSRP just to be rid of them.
I used to feel the same, but turbo reliability is good as opposed to decades ago and you really can't beat the economy and power...it's like having your cake and eating it too. I get over 300 ft./lbs of torque while scoring almost 40 mpg. NA powerplants can't touch that.
That is a choice you will have to make and you will have to live with...
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The Toyotas have gotten progressively worse, imo, as they’ve put half-finished looking tech and switchgear into cars. This started in the overly clad, try too hard looks of the mid 2010s, and fluctuate but still are pretty bad imo.
I’d have not much concern with a Mazda, other than rust.
I find it dubious that any manufacturer’s car is going to be that bad before 75-100k assuming you drive respectfully and maintain it reasonably.
Honestly, I had a Malibu rental car recently, drove it extensively, and would consider it before any Corolla or Camry.
I’d have not much concern with a Mazda, other than rust.
I find it dubious that any manufacturer’s car is going to be that bad before 75-100k assuming you drive respectfully and maintain it reasonably.
Honestly, I had a Malibu rental car recently, drove it extensively, and would consider it before any Corolla or Camry.
I agree with JHZR2. We've had rental Malibus and they've been pretty decent overall, even yielding good fuel economy. Fairly comfortable and roomy.
If you would do some serious online shopping, and follow up that stage with direct emails giving actual pricing, you can probably get a new one for well within you budget.
You won't find an Accord or Camry for Malibu money and I don't know if you'd find a Corolla or Impreza suitable on your longer trips, although it looks like the Impreza can be picked up at a very good price.
It would help if we knew what you're rocking now. That would give everyone at least some dimension as to what your expectations in a car might be.
If you would do some serious online shopping, and follow up that stage with direct emails giving actual pricing, you can probably get a new one for well within you budget.
You won't find an Accord or Camry for Malibu money and I don't know if you'd find a Corolla or Impreza suitable on your longer trips, although it looks like the Impreza can be picked up at a very good price.
It would help if we knew what you're rocking now. That would give everyone at least some dimension as to what your expectations in a car might be.
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Toyota's M20A has a 41% thermal efficiency, the highest in a consumer grade engine, you would have to look at formula 1 to get higher. It gets great fuel economy and better power than that 1.2L turbo and does better than just about every single other 2 liter NA motor and about on par with older 2.5 and 2.4 NA motors juts from 5-10 years ago. Not only that, but the M20A is super reliable, and easy to maintain, parts are cheap, and you literally can't go wrong with it. The A25A is about the only other NA 4 cylinder with a linear performance and mileage improvement. My 2.5 camry with the A25A averages over the course of almost 300k miles a whopping 38 MPG....Non hybrid.
ive been snooping around and came across this high volume dealer in miami,i currrntly have a malibu but was looking at an equinox , the malibu is a great car but the cvt makes it junk , if only i could find a high volume toyota dealer on the east coast that has discounts like those below
https://www.bomninchevrolet.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&model=Equinox
https://www.bomninchevrolet.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&model=Equinox,Malibu
https://www.bomninchevrolet.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&model=Equinox
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