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[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Castrol 0W-40.

Should address the noise at start up.

No cost premium. Priced just like M1.


Where do you find Castrol 0w-40 for $5/qt, everyday price?

 

[SilverC6]

Nowhere yet.

When Walmart starts stocking it on the shelf next to the M1 0W-40, that will change.

In the meantime, shop the sales at Advance Auto.

I purchased my supply for $29.95 for 5 quarts with a nice $16 FRAM Ultra filter.

That's $2.80 per quart with a deluxe orange can of death.

What a deal........

 

[Ibrahim]

try a synthetic 5W40 oil and see if it helps! T6 can be had for le$$...

 

[gzpzzr]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
You are using one of the best available 0w-40s available. However if you don't like the tick try something else. Do you have pennzoil ultra 5w-40 available to you.

PU 5W-40 is almost more expensive than DT40 by the prices I have seen. Cleansing promise does look appealing though

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Nowhere yet.

When Walmart starts stocking it

More like 'if', and that's a big 'if'.

Walmart has never stocked Syntec 0w-30. What makes you think they'll stock the 0w-40?

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Nowhere yet.

When Walmart starts stocking it on the shelf next to the M1 0W-40, that will change.

In the meantime, shop the sales at Advance Auto.

I purchased my supply for $29.95 for 5 quarts with a nice $16 FRAM Ultra filter.

That's $2.80 per quart with a deluxe orange can of death.

What a deal........

That what worries me. Selling 5qt jug for $25 and making profit.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Walmart has never stocked Syntec 0w-30. What makes you think they'll stock the 0w-40?

For all the screwiness of Walmarts up here, at least they offer M1 0w-40, GC, Syntec 0w-40 and 5w-40.

 

[97tbird]

Guess one can always wait for another BOGO sale at AAP for Castrol 0w/40 (BC).

That's how I hoarded a bit, probably enough for 2 OCs.

 

[SilverC6]

Walmart will add Castrol 0W-40 along with Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro to their shelves because they can make money selling it.

Euro spec oils are gaining market share in the US and that gets Walmart's attention.

Castrol's 0W-30 remains a dinosaur in the current oil market with its API SL rating and shrinking niche appeal.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Walmart will add Castrol 0W-40 along with Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro to their shelves because they can make money selling it.

Euro spec oils are gaining market share in the US and that gets Walmart's attention.

Castrol's 0W-30 remains a dinosaur in the current oil market with its API SL rating and shrinking niche appeal.

Who cares about API approvals?
Castrol 0W40 and 0W30 are probably based on same base oils and some additives are probably same.
But API approvals are completely irrelevant.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Castrol's 0W-30 remains a dinosaur in the current oil market with its API SL rating and shrinking niche appeal.

Shrinking niche appeal? You're contradicting yourself. GC 0w-30 meets the same Euro specs as the 0w-40, so if "Euro spec oils are gaining market share," then this should hold true for GC just as much as it holds for Castrol 0w-40. API classification is irrelevant when it comes to Euro applications.

With that said, it would make sense for Castrol to eliminate one of them. They are redundant.

 

[SilverC6]

The SL rating shoots German Castrol in the foot.

Castrol needs to upgrade the formulation of GC or move to a more modern product, say a 0W-40 made in Belgium.

It's time for GC to fade into the sunset.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Looking into the future, the SL rating shoots German Castrol in the foot.

Again, API rating is irrelevant when it comes to Euro applications.

 

[SilverC6]

Give it a year and let's see if Walmart has Castrol 0W-40 on the shelf and whether GC has vanished from the shelves of major US retailers.

 

[SilverC6]

I like API SL rated oils and API SM rated oils, but they all are pretty much gone in the US.

One notable exception is GC.

Big brother doesn't like dirty SL and SM rated oils.

That's why Castrol has developed a replacement.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Big brother doesn't like dirty SL and SM rated oils.

That's why Castrol has developed a replacement.

Castrol didn't have to develop much. The Edge 0w-40 has been available in other countries for years. And the only thing they had to do is take GC and thicken it up a bit so that it gets classified as a 40-grade. The 40 grades are not subject to the same API add pack restrictions as the 30 grades.

 

[Ayrton]

In terms of Castrol products, I think it's possible 0w-30 would get scrapped before 0w-40.

I know 0w-30 is very close to 40 weight.

However, there are certain engines, like the 6.2 liter AMG V8 that not only asks for 229.5 for a 0w-40 or 5w40 oil too.

Most Mercedes want any 229.5, but that particular AMG wants (at least in maintenance manuals) 5w-40 or 0w-40.

Nevertheless, I suspect they will keep both oils for the time being.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: Ayrton
In terms of Castrol products, I think it's possible 0w-30 would get scrapped before 0w-40.

It would certainly make sense to do this. Yet, Castrol 0w-40 has been available in the US for over a year now, and the 0w-30 is still here. On top of it, Castrol just moved production of it from Germany to Belgium. Makes you wonder why they would even bother shifting production if they were getting ready to scrap it. But not everything always makes sense at these large conglomerates.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I like API SL rated oils and API SM rated oils, but they all are pretty much gone in the US.

One notable exception is GC.

Big brother doesn't like dirty SL and SM rated oils.

That's why Castrol has developed a replacement.

AGAIN, API is totally irrelevant in Euro application.
GC meets MB 229.5, which is more stringent then API SN.
No one who has Euro car is buying oil based on API approval.
Castrol 0W40 is on a market for long time (Europe).
And you are saying direty oils? MB 229.5 spec leave more then 70% less deposits then API SN requirement.

 

[SilverC6]

I hope GC is alive and well in the US market five years from now.

But it seems to me that US retail distribution is already limited (Autozone) and BP Castrol is heavily focused on its newest 0W-40 product that replaces GC in almost all applications.

By dirty I was referring to the stuff that EPA measures coming out of the tailpipe, not the cleanliness of the piston skirt.

As we all know, recent oil formulations in the US have been driven by federal emissions and fuel enonomy goals. Is the move to an API SN 0W-40 a reaction by Castrol to that trend?