Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: VicL
Originally Posted By: Vizzy
Like I said READ YOUR OWNERS MANUALLY carefully!
I'm not saying every manual states that BUT most do especially over the past decade or so.
I'm definitely going to follow the instructions of qualified automotive engine systems engineers over some folks on the internet suggestion that I put MMO in my fuel tank. Perhaps it won't damage every car, but really WHY chance it.
Again if your car is under warranty and you use MMO or similar products you risk having your warranty voided.
MY owner's manual says that Sythetic oils will not allow extended OCIs.
MY owner's manual says that Honda motor oil is recommended (I drive two different Honda vehicles).
The owner's manual has some bias in it. Some of the information is misleading, at best. Really, how many people on this board recommend Honda-labeled motor oil? It also says not to put additives in oil or fuel. In 90% of the cases this is probably good advice. A lot of additives may cause more harm than good. In the case of MMO in the fuel, used at recommended levels, I don't see the problem. I can see the problem for those people who bad-mouth it as "snake-oil" as you have repeatedly referred to it. Personally, I haven't found any reasonable evidence on the internet of people claiming damage from its use. On the contrary, there's a lot of people, including myself, who find that it can have some benefits. It's not snake oil.
Back to your no-additives claim -- according to you, we should never use: Stabil, Techron, regane, seafoam, or any of the other additives that people have found useful. In other words, if it was good it would be in the fuel already. That would be great it it were true, but you know as well as others that it is not. Ethanol doesn't significantly improve my fuel.... in fact it has negative impact on my car's performance. But it is there as an additive. Techron is added to some fuels, but not all of them. What we get in the fuels is what the companies have either decided was required by law, good for their bottom line, or good marketing. If we find a good additive then we should use it as desired.
And I'd like to see just one report of a person who put MMO in their fuel, had an MMO-related problem and had their warranty denied.
Vic
Nice write up vic! Fuel is far from perfect, MMO helps keep things clean, acts as a UCL and in some cases people are reporting MPG gains. I'm still waiting to see all the dead cars because of the use of MMO. Or hear of warranty claims denied because MMO was added to gas. What I've learned is this [not referring to anyone in particular], the bashers of any products here on Bitog are usually people who never tried them. JMO
Very nice indeed. And I share the same opinion.
As an aside, my OM doesn't tell me what grade of oil to use. Oh what am I to do
