Starting to use MMO in fuel

[badtlc]

Originally Posted By: Jaymus
What "negative effects" are you experiencing with MMO in the gas?


Reduced fuel mileage of about 0.6 MPG. That is documented through about 15k miles of use on my two 2.3L motors.

I have tried 4oz/10 gal and 3oz/10gal.

 

[panthermike]

Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: Jaymus
What "negative effects" are you experiencing with MMO in the gas?


Reduced fuel mileage of about 0.6 MPG. That is documented through about 15k miles of use on my two 2.3L motors.

I have tried 4oz/10 gal and 3oz/10gal.


Sorry to hear that, I saw about a 5% improvement on my old Corolla.

 

[badtlc]

Originally Posted By: panthermike
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: Jaymus
What "negative effects" are you experiencing with MMO in the gas?


Reduced fuel mileage of about 0.6 MPG. That is documented through about 15k miles of use on my two 2.3L motors.

I have tried 4oz/10 gal and 3oz/10gal.


Sorry to hear that, I saw about a 5% improvement on my old Corolla.


Not your fault. Nobody seems to be able to provide actual data in support of MMO usage. I'll keep hoping, though.

 

[panthermike]

Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: panthermike
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: Jaymus
What "negative effects" are you experiencing with MMO in the gas?


Reduced fuel mileage of about 0.6 MPG. That is documented through about 15k miles of use on my two 2.3L motors.

I have tried 4oz/10 gal and 3oz/10gal.


Sorry to hear that, I saw about a 5% improvement on my old Corolla.


Not your fault. Nobody seems to be able to provide actual data in support of MMO usage. I'll keep hoping, though.


What are you hoping for, what kind of data?

 

[badtlc]

Originally Posted By: panthermike


What are you hoping for, what kind of data?


I'm hoping to pin down that MMO actually does something in an application that can be verified and repeated whether it be in oil or gas.

 

[jcwit]

I have an idea, you do your thing we do ours. My milage has increased on a total avg. over the six months I've uses MMO, verses the 6 months prior to that. Also I believe the engine runs better, whether it actually does or not is in actuallity imaterial, if it makes an old faxt feel better, makes me happy. And thats very important for me at my age. Furthermore I get all this for less than $3.00 over a period of 6 weeks to 2 months.

Golly, what more do I want.

 

[Jimmy9190]

Originally Posted By: jcwit
My milage has increased on a total avg. over the six months I've uses MMO, verses the 6 months prior to that. Also I believe the engine runs better, whether it actually does or not is in actuallity imaterial,


+1

I have also done my own extensive testing and my truck definitely gets about 1 to 2 MPG better with MMO than without. Will MMO increase MPG for every single person who tries it? No. Will it increase MPG on the very first time you add it to your gas? No, it won't. It took about 6 weeks of use in every fill-up before I noticed any increase in MPG.

My truck runs better with MMO. Plain and simple. I know my truck like the back of my hand and there is a definite increase in power and it idles smoother, has stronger and more even acceleration and the throttle response is better with MMO than it ever was without it. With MMO in the oil, my engine idles even better and just has a more powerful performance. I don't use MMO in my oil all the time though, just for the last 1000 miles before an oil change. I really believe the positive effects on my engine from having MMO in the oil prior to an oil change help my engine run better during the first 2000 miles of an OCI. In winter months I use MMO in the oil for a longer period of time and my engine runs great then too, and cold starts in 30 to 40 degree weather take no more than a split second turn of the ignition key.

My own experience with MMO is all the documentation I need. It works and it works very well. It gently cleans the fuel injectors, it lubes the fuel pump and it helps to offset the negative effects of ethanol. MMO increases my compression and cleans the piston rings, providing a better seal. That and its UCL properties help my truck run better than it ever did without MMO.

I don't use MMO strictly to improve MPG. The MPG increase is a very welcome side effect of the UCL, lubrication and cleaning properties of MMO. It works great for me (and countless other people too) and that is all I really need to know. And I have yet to come across a single post or article online saying that MMO in gas and/or oil damaged an engine.

MMO is a great product. My only complaint is I wish I had discovered it sooner.

 

[demarpaint]

In the decades I've used it I have drawn a few conclusions. Older engines seem to benefit the most from it, that makes sense too. Hopefully a new/newer engine is running the best it can be. Don't get me wrong I think newer engines benefit from top oil but the gains aren't as noticeable.

In an older engine MMO makes a tighter ring seal which in turn would make the engine a little more efficient and idle smoother. This is where MMO really shines. It also keeps the combustion chamber clean, and stops flash rusting on marine engines, or engines that aren't used frequently.

Does it work for everyone? No, but scanning through all the MMO posts I think there are a lot more satisfied users than people unhappy with the product.

Aside from many members posting mpg gains, and some pretty nice UOA reports (TBN slightly reduced is the only negative I've seen), I don't know how much more the average person can test a product.

 

[Jimmy9190]

I agree 100%. I have 132,600 miles onmy Dakota now and it runs great. I know MMO is one of the reasons my truck runs so well for its age. I will keep using MMO so my truck will continue to run just as well as it does now. I want to keep my truck for a very long time and MMO is helping me take care of it so it will last.

 

[Scooter_man]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Older engines seem to benefit the most from it, that makes sense too.


Absolutely, my new Roketa MC-114 Moped (1960's/70's technology honda clone) runs noticably better with MMO. My 2009 Honda Metropolitan - seems like it could care less although it gets MMO too as a UCL.

I've only got 400 miles on the Moped, but there is a definate difference in smoothness. It gets a little over 100 mpg anyway, so i'm not worried about that. But, to back up your point, yes it does make the most difference in older engines (or engines made from older molds/casts using earlier specs).