So what is the deal with HPL Oil?

M1Accord said:
Hope I don’t get banned for asking whether HPL is the Mr. Clean version of Amsoil. I remember reading so much material online about not how great Amsoil is but how much better it was in comparison to other conventional synthetic oil. And all those fancy sites were either owned by or were affiliated with Amsoil if you really dig into their super tiny prints often listed elsewhere.

As we all starting to or already figured out, Amsoil makes great oil and it is clearly a boutique brand just like Red Line and Royal Purple were many years ago but Amsoil has the best marketing department with the most loyal affiliates and dealer network. But is is a great oil clearly not meant for the mass. On the opposite end, we have Kirkland, and to a some extent Wally Syntec, are also great oil at such great price because both Warren and Costco don’t need a massive marketing department to take over any top spot. They just create great oil and hit a very different clientele.

Honestly, I was M1 user for a long time because Mobil One was associated with petroleum and it was my go to oil regardless of price. I wasn’t even wise enough to seek deals and just bought whatever the latest M1 products, first few times at auto part stores, at Wally. For right now, M1 EP is $2 more than M1 FS and it has 20k o stead of 10k rating. If it wasn’t for that Kirkland’s black bottle someone open catching my eye, I would still be a very happy M1 user. And nothing would persuade me to try any brand except Penzoil Ultra Platinum that highly regarded. I actually like to try to see if it makes my Fit’s tiny engine quieter. I am sure butt-dyno will say it is better because I pay more and it is even available at Wally shelf but I’ll never run UOA on it and on Kirkland and M1 to see which is better; I know they are all more than good enough in my mild application.

And after this long winded post, I am intrigued to find out where I can get some HPL in my quest to take my Fit to 300k mile.
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https://www.advlubrication.com/collections/automotive-lubricants/products/passenger-car-motor-oil
 
M1Accord said:
Hope I don’t get banned for asking whether HPL is the Mr. Clean version of Amsoil. I remember reading so much material online about not how great Amsoil is but how much better it was in comparison to other conventional synthetic oil. And all those fancy sites were either owned by or were affiliated with Amsoil if you really dig into their super tiny prints often listed elsewhere.

As we all starting to or already figured out, Amsoil makes great oil and it is clearly a boutique brand just like Red Line and Royal Purple were many years ago but Amsoil has the best marketing department with the most loyal affiliates and dealer network. But is is a great oil clearly not meant for the mass. On the opposite end, we have Kirkland, and to a some extent Wally Syntec, are also great oil at such great price because both Warren and Costco don’t need a massive marketing department to take over any top spot. They just create great oil and hit a very different clientele.

Honestly, I was M1 user for a long time because Mobil One was associated with petroleum and it was my go to oil regardless of price. I wasn’t even wise enough to seek deals and just bought whatever the latest M1 products, first few times at auto part stores, at Wally. For right now, M1 EP is $2 more than M1 FS and it has 20k o stead of 10k rating. If it wasn’t for that Kirkland’s black bottle someone open catching my eye, I would still be a very happy M1 user. And nothing would persuade me to try any brand except Penzoil Ultra Platinum that highly regarded. I actually like to try to see if it makes my Fit’s tiny engine quieter. I am sure butt-dyno will say it is better because I pay more and it is even available at Wally shelf but I’ll never run UOA on it and on Kirkland and M1 to see which is better; I know they are all more than good enough in my mild application.

And after this long winded post, I am intrigued to find out where I can get some HPL in my quest to take my Fit to 300k mile.
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Amsoil is a fine choice, as is HPL. Get ahold of @Pablo if you want Amsoil.

Go to advlubrication.com for HPL, and use code BITOG15 for 15% off your order. Give them a call to see if they are still doing $25 flat rate shipping (per box).
 
people over on the Honda Civic forum i'm on were railing me because HPL is not an "API approved oil" and they are convinced it's going to damage my engine...they said i need to go back to Honda oil or Walmart oil. lol

i don't think i've ever heard of HPL damaging anyone's engine. and how are they going to know the oil i used is not API certified?
 
cryptolyme said:
people over on the Honda Civic forum i'm on were railing me because HPL is not an "API approved oil" and they are convinced it's going to damage my engine...they said i need to go back to Honda oil or Walmart oil. lol

i don't think i've ever heard of HPL damaging anyone's engine.
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Sounds like BITOG 2010
 
cryptolyme said:
people over on the Honda Civic forum i'm on were railing me because HPL is not an "API approved oil" and they are convinced it's going to damage my engine...they said i need to go back to Honda oil or Walmart oil. lol

i don't think i've ever heard of HPL damaging anyone's engine. and how are they going to know the oil i used is not API certified?
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HPL doesn’t damage 2000HP NHRA Pro Stock engines. Safe to say your Honda will be just fine. 👍🏻
 
cryptolyme said:
people over on the Honda Civic forum i'm on were railing me because HPL is not an "API approved oil" and they are convinced it's going to damage my engine...they said i need to go back to Honda oil or Walmart oil. lol

i don't think i've ever heard of HPL damaging anyone's engine. and how are they going to know the oil i used is not API certified?
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I don't even use Walmart oil in my riding mower. Some people have higher standards. 🤷
 
kevperro said:
I'm a cheap mo-fo, SuperTech-loving bottom dweller, and even I like them. They must be doing something right.
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I had graduated from Amsoil to ST when I stopped having a huge commute and started working for myself.

Now I have a 5gal pail of HPL and slowly converting the bulk of my fleet of 6 to HPL. The racecar after I use this last bit of Redline I purchased 2 years ago may get HPL next...I dunno yet.
 
cryptolyme said:
people over on the Honda Civic forum i'm on were railing me because HPL is not an "API approved oil" and they are convinced it's going to damage my engine...they said i need to go back to Honda oil or Walmart oil. lol

i don't think i've ever heard of HPL damaging anyone's engine. and how are they going to know the oil i used is not API certified?
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Typical bunch of tightly wound Civic nimrods. They should have checked the bonafides of HPL. The question should be about getting precisely dialed in on viscosity and which HPL formula to use.
 
cryptolyme said:
people over on the Honda Civic forum i'm on were railing me because HPL is not an "API approved oil" and they are convinced it's going to damage my engine...they said i need to go back to Honda oil or Walmart oil. lol

i don't think i've ever heard of HPL damaging anyone's engine. and how are they going to know the oil i used is not API certified?
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Want to blow their minds? Just tell them the truth, HPL's oils far exceed what is possible within the API box.
 
CleanSump said:
It's like the new Dom Perignon in a market full of Boone's Farm and Schlitz.
Not for Bud/Quaker State drinkers.
It's not marketed to people who sing;
What's the word?
Thunderbird!
What's the price?
20 twice!"

It's for the motor oil connoisseur.
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"thirty twice" is the way it went...
 
williamshrader said:
As the title says... what is the deal with HPL oil? I am seeing it heavily talked about on the forum but nowhere else. What's special about it? How do you buy it?
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I thought this was rather convincing little piece from HPL's Website: "We are quite happy being a smaller, focused, and responsive company. You will never hear “press 2 for English” when you call us. We are blessed to have the industry’s most talented people as a resource to help troubleshoot your applications and improve your bottom line using our lubricants."

I'm sold. Now whether I can afford their products for my daily driver. But I would like to.
 
cryptolyme said:
people over on the Honda Civic forum i'm on were railing me because HPL is not an "API approved oil" and they are convinced it's going to damage my engine...they said i need to go back to Honda oil or Walmart oil. lol

i don't think i've ever heard of HPL damaging anyone's engine. and how are they going to know the oil i used is not API certified?
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HPL
AMSoil
Red Line performance series

They typically don't have an API license, and none of them will damage an engine if an appropriate viscosity was chosen. If there's anything "wrong" with them, it's usually the up front cost. I'd rather budget for the oil, than for extra cleaning later on, or even replacement of parts like chains.
 
HPL is supposed to have an ATV/UTV oil called SXS. I can't find it anywhere. Anybody use it/know where I can find it?
 
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