I currently have Motorcraft syn blend 5W30 and a quart of HPL EC in my 3.7 F150 that I posted about recently. I do plan on running HPL from here on out but this is Bitog and just for fun Im considering doing a 8k run each of HPL 5W30, Redline 5W30 and Schaeffers 5W30 and see how they compare with a UOA. Are these oils pretty comparable to each other? I like that Redline 5W30 has a film strength equal to a 40 grade.
HPL, Redline and Schaeffers
- Thread starter mobilnissan1991
- Start date
Are Redline and Schaeffers capable of an 8k run?
you should be able to run 8k on any of these oils I talked with a Schaeffer person and he remarked a good 10k easily obtainable on their 9000 series oil ,or go use Amsoil ss 5w-30 and go even farther oci. also use a good filter capable of longer change out capacity.
Triple_Se7en
$50 Site Donor 2024
That Redline 5w30 is really nothing more than glorified Kendall Max 1 Synthetic 5w30. Kendall is a fine oil in the Mobil-1, Valvoline, Castrol pricing category.
If you want a better built Redline, reach for the 0w30.
Been wanting to try Schaeffers. But I don't see the Schaeffers 9000 Synthetic as being API SP-certified yet. But the HPL No VII oils certainly are SP. If your Ford is aged, then SL, SN and SN Plus certs should work well.
The experiment may be faulty. You probably need to get to a common base line before starting your test and between the test oils. Surface active chemicals in the oils will leave an active wear prevention film on surfaces that will impact subsequent test oils. You will get better, more realistic results by running a generic oil before your test and between test oils, at least one, preferably two interval. Then run two 8K intervals with each test oil using run 2 as your data.
UOAs don't serve this purpose.
This logic would make every uao in existence pretty much void by saying previous surface chemicals were still active.
I’d run HPL and not waste the money on multiple UOA’s.
This
That’s dam rightThis
The only real question would be the value of the data from initial used oil analysis after a change of chemistry. My background includes formulating and field trialing motor oils in high horsepower diesels used in ultra haul trucks and mobile equipment used at mine sites. When we set up motor oil comparison protocols we always used 2-3 intervals with the test oil for this reason. Using the analysis of initial interval to judge performance can be misleading.
An example of what I mean is I followed a trend of a competitor motor oil being tested as a candidate to replace my company's oil. The analysis of the candidate oil was comparable to that of the incumbent in the first 1-2 intervals. However in the 3-4 interval bearing wear indicators began to increase. They increased to an unacceptable level and remained there.
Using 1-2 cleaning intervals will get the unit closer to a baseline. From there, test data should be valid.
Schaeffers is certified SP. I bought a case of it while in Missouri and it’s got all the certifications I need for my 2 new cars. I bought hpl not realizing it wasn’t and switched to schaeffers to be safe. I’ll probably go to hp, after warranty, or maybe not. I put 9000 in my 18 rogue and noticed a few difference compared to the valvoline the suv received for the 1st 90k.
Similar threads
