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So how beneficial is milk?
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Milk is no good for me. It doesn't make me ill with gas or bloating. It makes me sick with colds. At first it seemed that high milk products like ice cream and milk were bad and the processed low milk products yogurt, butter, and cheese were fine but it turns out that those cause the same trouble just much slower allowing me to be sucked into the same fallacies everyone else is until I figured it out. I've always been a food Canary so I don't need any outside research to tell me what's good and bad and advertising cannot sway my food choices. A glass of milk for me means a cold in 3 days, repeatable as often as I care to be miserable. Considering the incubation period for a cold is about 3 days, the cause is pretty clear.
I always say it's lactose intolerance because that's the only condition anyone knows about but I suspect it's a reaction to something else in milk. Something that's legally allowed to be there because it's not a (obvious) problem for most people.
Being a food Canary used to be torture living in a world where almost everyone is very food tolerant. Claims like "milk is good for you" and "illness and problems will happen anyways regardless of what you eat" seem true because the claims come from every direction. Now that I've learned the flawed information such claims are based on I enjoy subtracting IQ points as I hear people quoting advertisements and lack of knowledge as fact.
Though many sing praises I'm not convinced that milk is good for any one. Milk ranges from really bad to only a little harmful. I consider milk to be a pleasure drink like soda. Drink it if you like it but don't pretend it's good for you.
I always say it's lactose intolerance because that's the only condition anyone knows about but I suspect it's a reaction to something else in milk. Something that's legally allowed to be there because it's not a (obvious) problem for most people.
Being a food Canary used to be torture living in a world where almost everyone is very food tolerant. Claims like "milk is good for you" and "illness and problems will happen anyways regardless of what you eat" seem true because the claims come from every direction. Now that I've learned the flawed information such claims are based on I enjoy subtracting IQ points as I hear people quoting advertisements and lack of knowledge as fact.
Though many sing praises I'm not convinced that milk is good for any one. Milk ranges from really bad to only a little harmful. I consider milk to be a pleasure drink like soda. Drink it if you like it but don't pretend it's good for you.
I skimmed over this thread linked from another. I myself find it strange for humans to drink from the udder or breast of another animal, especially a bovine !! If they were to sell human breast milk it would be an admonishment, and even taboo yet we still consume milk from another animal...
Those that think goat milk is organic must not have ever raised goats, if you ever have you would know why the old pictures depict the devil with a goats head. I assure you they are a nasty animal, and have zero place around kids or most children.. My two kids do however have goats, they stay away from them, look at their babies... Even when castrated they are evil animals...
Those that think goat milk is organic must not have ever raised goats, if you ever have you would know why the old pictures depict the devil with a goats head. I assure you they are a nasty animal, and have zero place around kids or most children.. My two kids do however have goats, they stay away from them, look at their babies... Even when castrated they are evil animals...
Well it's not like we're sucking the milk directly out of the cow. Same way we're not tearing raw flesh off the bones with our teeth. We evolved/adapted/were made with the ability to raise animals and use them as a source of work and food, and to prepare that food, nothing gross about that.
If you want to get dramatic, I'd suggest our habit of eating eggs is far more gross than anything we do with milk
I probably shouldn't even mention raw oysters.
Besides, without eggs and milk how would I make waffles?
jeff
If you want to get dramatic, I'd suggest our habit of eating eggs is far more gross than anything we do with milk
Besides, without eggs and milk how would I make waffles?
jeff
Originally Posted By: StevieC
It would be if you buy organic milk, but non-organic in the U.S. can contain all kinds of growth hormones and anti-biotic's that are fed to the dairy cows while producing milk because your laws are different than Canada and Europe which bans this.
It is an excellent drink of choice and is very good for kids.
To avoid possible hormones etc in milk we always gave our kids skim milk on the thought that most of the bad stuff would be associated with the fat. The can get fat elsewhere. I don't drink milk much and then if I do it's only chocolate milk. Otherwise I hate milk as much as I hate califlower and yoghurt. My dad always said, "Milk is for babies!" Works for me.
It would be if you buy organic milk, but non-organic in the U.S. can contain all kinds of growth hormones and anti-biotic's that are fed to the dairy cows while producing milk because your laws are different than Canada and Europe which bans this.
It is an excellent drink of choice and is very good for kids.
To avoid possible hormones etc in milk we always gave our kids skim milk on the thought that most of the bad stuff would be associated with the fat. The can get fat elsewhere. I don't drink milk much and then if I do it's only chocolate milk. Otherwise I hate milk as much as I hate califlower and yoghurt. My dad always said, "Milk is for babies!" Works for me.
Hi TallPaul,
Organic milk is not supposed to have any growth hormones that were given the cow, but milk already comes loaded with hormones from the mother cow. It's what calves require. As I previously said, milk is a hormone delivery system for sucklings.
Cheers,
-J
Originally Posted By: TallPaul
To avoid possible hormones etc in milk we always gave our kids skim milk on the thought that most of the bad stuff would be associated with the fat.
Organic milk is not supposed to have any growth hormones that were given the cow, but milk already comes loaded with hormones from the mother cow. It's what calves require. As I previously said, milk is a hormone delivery system for sucklings.
Cheers,
-J
Originally Posted By: TallPaul
To avoid possible hormones etc in milk we always gave our kids skim milk on the thought that most of the bad stuff would be associated with the fat.
Originally Posted By: John_Corey
Hi TallPaul,
Organic milk is not supposed to have any growth hormones that were given the cow, but milk already comes loaded with hormones from the mother cow. It's what calves require. As I previously said, milk is a hormone delivery system for sucklings.
Cheers,
-J
Originally Posted By: TallPaul
To avoid possible hormones etc in milk we always gave our kids skim milk on the thought that most of the bad stuff would be associated with the fat.
Ah yes, good point, natural cow hormones meant for their babies. Hmmmm, maybe not so good for people. Well again, I will argue that those too most likely are carried in the fatty part of the milk.
Hi TallPaul,
Organic milk is not supposed to have any growth hormones that were given the cow, but milk already comes loaded with hormones from the mother cow. It's what calves require. As I previously said, milk is a hormone delivery system for sucklings.
Cheers,
-J
Originally Posted By: TallPaul
To avoid possible hormones etc in milk we always gave our kids skim milk on the thought that most of the bad stuff would be associated with the fat.
Ah yes, good point, natural cow hormones meant for their babies. Hmmmm, maybe not so good for people. Well again, I will argue that those too most likely are carried in the fatty part of the milk.
You may argue, now prove it. Then prove that bovine hormones are harmful to the masses. Don't need your opinion, state facts and studies.
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Well, regardless of the bad aspects of many things, I sure have some fond memories of guzzling about a quart of the stuff (whole) and inhaling about 7 or 8 Oreo cookies in something that could almost be described as a race.
Gosh it was fun.
Skim milk was unappealing ..with the exception of summer time. For some reason it worked better for me at that time of year. I guess it had thirst quenching characteristics that whole milk did not.
Gosh it was fun.
Skim milk was unappealing ..with the exception of summer time. For some reason it worked better for me at that time of year. I guess it had thirst quenching characteristics that whole milk did not.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, regardless of the bad aspects of many things, I sure have some fond memories of guzzling about a quart of the stuff (whole) and inhaling about 7 or 8 Oreo cookies in something that could almost be described as a race.
Gosh it was fun.
Skim milk was unappealing ..with the exception of summer time. For some reason it worked better for me at that time of year. I guess it had thirst quenching characteristics that whole milk did not.
Yes, it was fun. Still is. So are giant double-thick milkshakes served in the metal shake cup thick enough that the straw stands on end. The aftermath of such dairy indulgences, though, tends to be catastrophic.
The reason you liked skim milk more in summer has to do with fat content. Fat is insulating. Skim milk will "feel" colder than full-fat milk of the same temperature.
Well, regardless of the bad aspects of many things, I sure have some fond memories of guzzling about a quart of the stuff (whole) and inhaling about 7 or 8 Oreo cookies in something that could almost be described as a race.
Gosh it was fun.
Skim milk was unappealing ..with the exception of summer time. For some reason it worked better for me at that time of year. I guess it had thirst quenching characteristics that whole milk did not.
Yes, it was fun. Still is. So are giant double-thick milkshakes served in the metal shake cup thick enough that the straw stands on end. The aftermath of such dairy indulgences, though, tends to be catastrophic.
The reason you liked skim milk more in summer has to do with fat content. Fat is insulating. Skim milk will "feel" colder than full-fat milk of the same temperature.
Originally Posted By: jcwit
You may argue, now prove it. Then prove that bovine hormones are harmful to the masses. Don't need your opinion, state facts and studies.
My only argument is that likely the hormones of any type being passed along in the milk would be in the fat. Never said that bovine hormones are bad for people, so there is nothing for me to prove on that. As for the hormones being carried in the fat:
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Because hormones reside in milk fat, drinking skim milk is one option.
From, www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html
You may argue, now prove it. Then prove that bovine hormones are harmful to the masses. Don't need your opinion, state facts and studies.
My only argument is that likely the hormones of any type being passed along in the milk would be in the fat. Never said that bovine hormones are bad for people, so there is nothing for me to prove on that. As for the hormones being carried in the fat:
Quote:
Because hormones reside in milk fat, drinking skim milk is one option.
From, www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html
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So are giant double-thick milkshakes served in the metal shake cup thick enough that the straw stands on end.
In NuWingland, you might find a ice cream parlor that made an Awful-Awful. Awful thick and Awful good. It was essentially solid ice cream put on the blender until it liquefied. I think you could almost turn the container upside down for a bit and it wouldn't spill.
Friendly's serves these types of shakes.
So are giant double-thick milkshakes served in the metal shake cup thick enough that the straw stands on end.
In NuWingland, you might find a ice cream parlor that made an Awful-Awful. Awful thick and Awful good. It was essentially solid ice cream put on the blender until it liquefied. I think you could almost turn the container upside down for a bit and it wouldn't spill.
Friendly's serves these types of shakes.
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Because hormones reside in milk fat, drinking skim milk is one option.
From, www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html
BTW, this linked article points a finger at how the milk is produced, not milk in general. Very interesting read.
Because hormones reside in milk fat, drinking skim milk is one option.
From, www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html
BTW, this linked article points a finger at how the milk is produced, not milk in general. Very interesting read.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
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So are giant double-thick milkshakes served in the metal shake cup thick enough that the straw stands on end.
In NuWingland, you might find a ice cream parlor that made an Awful-Awful. Awful thick and Awful good. It was essentially solid ice cream put on the blender until it liquefied. I think you could almost turn the container upside down for a bit and it wouldn't spill.
Friendly's serves these types of shakes.
That is the Newport Creamery, which used to have a location in Mystic, CT, about an hour away from me. Essentially a Rhode Island-based Friendly's.
"Awful Big, Awful Good!" "Drink three, get one free!"
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So are giant double-thick milkshakes served in the metal shake cup thick enough that the straw stands on end.
In NuWingland, you might find a ice cream parlor that made an Awful-Awful. Awful thick and Awful good. It was essentially solid ice cream put on the blender until it liquefied. I think you could almost turn the container upside down for a bit and it wouldn't spill.
Friendly's serves these types of shakes.
That is the Newport Creamery, which used to have a location in Mystic, CT, about an hour away from me. Essentially a Rhode Island-based Friendly's.
"Awful Big, Awful Good!" "Drink three, get one free!"
Originally Posted By: TallPaul
jcwit said:
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The aftermath of such dairy indulgences, though, tends to be catastrophic.
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I believe the word used should be "over-indulgence".
The aftermath of such dairy indulgences, though, tends to be catastrophic.
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I believe the word used should be "over-indulgence".
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Originally Posted By: AlienBug
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
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So are giant double-thick milkshakes served in the metal shake cup thick enough that the straw stands on end.
In NuWingland, you might find a ice cream parlor that made an Awful-Awful. Awful thick and Awful good. It was essentially solid ice cream put on the blender until it liquefied. I think you could almost turn the container upside down for a bit and it wouldn't spill.
Friendly's serves these types of shakes.
That is the Newport Creamery, which used to have a location in Mystic, CT, about an hour away from me. Essentially a Rhode Island-based Friendly's.
"Awful Big, Awful Good!" "Drink three, get one free!"
Yep. There was one in Attahborah ..just north of the RoDIALan line
I can't imagine downing two of those in one sitting.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
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So are giant double-thick milkshakes served in the metal shake cup thick enough that the straw stands on end.
In NuWingland, you might find a ice cream parlor that made an Awful-Awful. Awful thick and Awful good. It was essentially solid ice cream put on the blender until it liquefied. I think you could almost turn the container upside down for a bit and it wouldn't spill.
Friendly's serves these types of shakes.
That is the Newport Creamery, which used to have a location in Mystic, CT, about an hour away from me. Essentially a Rhode Island-based Friendly's.
"Awful Big, Awful Good!" "Drink three, get one free!"
Yep. There was one in Attahborah ..just north of the RoDIALan line
I can't imagine downing two of those in one sitting.
Originally Posted By: jcwit
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