Slot Machines in Las Vegas

If gambling was meant to kill time, every casino in the world would be shuttered.

Gambling is considered immoral due to its association with greed, addiction, and financial ruin, promoting quick riches over honest work and responsible stewardship, leading to family breakdown, poverty, and crime, and being viewed by many as wasteful, exploitative, and contrary to principles of fairness and honest living. It's seen as a shortcut to wealth, fostering an unhealthy reliance on luck instead of effort, while creating negative social impacts and potential harm to individuals and communities.
I said it in the nicest way possible.

If one thinks they can win, good luck...
 
ALL of the electronic machines are controlled from Chicago. If you get a card, I mean a membership card, or CREDIT card, they can tie you to the machine and entice you to return by varying the odds in real time. If anyone thinks these machines are honest and above board, they are fooling themselves.

My sister loved to gamble. She would ALWAYS count her winnings, but never adjusted those numbers with her losses.
 
No kidding. Places used to note that they had 90-whatever percent payouts. Maybe the still do.

Most slots sure weren’t lavish. Sure didn’t look like the people sitting there pushing a button to kill time could afford to do it.
Those slot machines would be the high limit area.

You did not get my point. People are throwing money away to press some buttons.

High risk, low return.
 
ALL of the electronic machines are controlled from Chicago. If you get a card, I mean a membership card, or CREDIT card, they can tie you to the machine and entice you to return by varying the odds in real time. If anyone thinks these machines are honest and above board, they are fooling themselves.

My sister loved to gamble. She would ALWAYS count her winnings, but never adjusted those numbers with her losses.
Not in Nevada or likely anywhere in the US.
 
A member of BITOG posted he was a security guard at a casino. His post briefly discussed what a security guard witnesses at a casino, and it implied it was beyond, well beyond tragic.
I could completely believe that after what I witnessed.
 
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I've always viewed that stuff as entertainment, not true gambling, so instant gratification seems fitting.

I have to go to Vegas at least annually. I don't gamble or drink, so I'm not too fond of the whole place.
Reminds me of the TV commercials we used to get when riverboat casinos first came to Illinois.... Apparently they weren't allowed to say "gambling" on TV, so they phrased it as "Las Vegas-style entertainment". ;)
 
In the late 90's/early 00's I was a dealer at a casino for 4 years, my wife 8. The games are very clearly constructed with a marginal house edge. The only table game you really have any control over is Blackjack; and in order to effectively address the house edge you have to be very adept at card counting. It is hard to be adept at card counting inconspicuously when a well-trained, seasoned supervisor is nearby. Dealers, though? We'd LOVE for you to win. Our tips reflect that.

The tragedies that I saw unfold took place over months; well-dressed professionals degrading, ever so slowly, unto dishevelled messes with a narrow tan line where a wedding ring used to be. Otherwise, wins and losses of extravagant amounts are not much to tell about because those amounts were trivial to the player.

I never play at casinos when I am there. Any place who takes such great pains to make sure there are no windows and no clocks is probably not a place with my best interests in mind. :)
 
Vegas is far from what it used to be. It is no longer focusing on cheap fun, and with that, cheap tourists who focus on slot machines, etc.
That is why their tourism is down (among other factors). Because if it is not cheap fun, there are far better places in the world to spend your money.
 
About 15 years ago my ex wife and I were at a wedding and the reception was being held in one of the conference rooms at Casinorama. Neither of us are gamblers but just for fun we said we would put $20 into a slot machine and see what happens. We won $80 so we stopped at that and had a nice steak dinner a few days later 😃 In 2017 we went to Las Vegas and even though we walked through many of the big casinos there we didn’t gamble at any of them.
My last time was for my birthday a few years ago, we and another close couple went on a whim for a few days. None of us are real gamblers. First night, on our way back from dinner we saw this roulette wheel and thought why not. I want to say we put $10 on 2-3 numbers each and said we'd split the win....which was ~$750 on the first spin. He and I looked at each other and said "time to quit" and that was it for the weekend. The little urge was there to keep going, but nope.
 
Vegas is far from what it used to be. It is no longer focusing on cheap fun, and with that, cheap tourists who focus on slot machines, etc.
That is why their tourism is down (among other factors). Because if it is not cheap fun, there are far better places in the world to spend your money.

Yep. It was a cheap get away especially for Elvis type weddings.
 
Vegas is far from what it used to be. It is no longer focusing on cheap fun, and with that, cheap tourists who focus on slot machines, etc.
That is why their tourism is down (among other factors). Because if it is not cheap fun, there are far better places in the world to spend your money.

Gambling becomes a smaller part of their revenue/profit every year. The dining and lodging parts are no longer loss leaders as the general quality and prices go up.

As far as slots go, in Nevada any gaming machine is required to have a minimum 75% average theoretical payout. They can order a machine be taken offline at any time to check the software.

14.040 Minimum standards for gaming devices. All gaming devices submitted for approval:​
1. Must theoretically pay out a mathematically demonstrable percentage of all amounts wagered, which must not be less than 75 percent for each wager available for play on the device.​
(a) Gaming devices that may be affected by player skill must meet this standard when using a method of play that will provide the greatest return to the player over a period of continuous play.​
 
Yep. It was a cheap get away especially for Elvis type weddings.
Yeah, I spend a lot of time there, and remember days of free parking, drinks etc. Now? I was three times there last year, spent a total of more than 30 days, and let me tell you, finding on a sale ticket to Paris, booking a hotel there is far cheaper than Vegas.
 
Gambling becomes a smaller part of their revenue/profit every year. The dining and lodging parts are no longer loss leaders as the general quality and prices go up.

As far as slots go, in Nevada any gaming machine is required to have a minimum 75% average theoretical payout. They can order a machine be taken offline at any time to check the software.

14.040 Minimum standards for gaming devices. All gaming devices submitted for approval:​
1. Must theoretically pay out a mathematically demonstrable percentage of all amounts wagered, which must not be less than 75 percent for each wager available for play on the device.​
(a) Gaming devices that may be affected by player skill must meet this standard when using a method of play that will provide the greatest return to the player over a period of continuous play.​
But they have huge losses. I am there very often as I have rental units there, plus my in-laws live there.
They spent 2025 half panicked, and in 2026, full panic will ensue.
Again, Vegas is successful only as cheap fun. Otherwise, it is just a pile of rocks in the middle of the desert.
 
If gambling was meant to kill time, every casino in the world would be shuttered.

Gambling is considered immoral due to its association with greed, addiction, and financial ruin, promoting quick riches over honest work and responsible stewardship, leading to family breakdown, poverty, and crime, and being viewed by many as wasteful, exploitative, and contrary to principles of fairness and honest living. It's seen as a shortcut to wealth, fostering an unhealthy reliance on luck instead of effort, while creating negative social impacts and potential harm to individuals and communities.
Slots used to return about 90% plus on the dollar. Government operated lotto about 50% on the dollar. Been close to two decades and always knew I'd lose, in the case of a casino it was a way to waste time and get pulmonary diseases. Always thought gambling was a tax on stupidity.
 
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