Add mandatory nationalized health insurance, and things will get really interesting.
Smoking banned INSIDE pubs and clubs.
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Surely not. Nor will I fight for smoking ..as in saying anything good about the practice/habit. It's about regulation and restrictions. If transfats are so bad ..an INFORMED public will seek out those producers that are not using transfats in preparation of foods ..businesses that want to attract those informed people will promote their healthy processes and capitalize on this emerging market.
We take risks every day. As long as we are INFORMED ..then the choice should be ours. No regulation should be punitive. That's what smoking regulations have become ..typically. It's not a campaign to protect the non-smoker. It's a campaign to stifle the smoker ..to alter his/her behavior ..not to make them innocuous. ..and it's done with a vengeance. It's as fanatical as a jihad for some ..a crusade for others.
It's the same with blood alcohol levels. The chronic and career drunk drivers were not managed well with the .10 BAL standard ...so they just decided to sweep a whole new bunch of law abiding citizens into the snare by going to .08. Still the .23 and .17 types will still drive as they have done. Just make more criminals to satisfy your zealous blood lust for revenge ..and take it out on those who don't deserve it and are not the reason for your anxiety.
It works for some people.
"Just make more criminals to satisfy your zealous blood lust for revenge ..and take it out on those who don't deserve it and are not the reason for your anxiety.
It works for some people."
Now this is a profound thought and a keen observation.
It works for some people."
Now this is a profound thought and a keen observation.
0.08 was found to be to high so national level 0.05 is the std. Some can't drive at even 0.05
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Here in the states, some can't drive @ 0.0
I didn't mention that as it's same here. Watching Last Chance Learners with my daughter was bad but not half as bad as Australia' Worst Drivers. These people actually had lic's but I can't see how
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This is why I'm thoroughly convinced that figures don't lie ..but liars do figure ..or at least some interpret statistics incorrectly. If you have defective drivers, I guess you could make the argument that they can't handle .10 ..and it may very well be true. What's missed is that many can't hand .001 without screwing up. Meanwhile you funnel tons of fresh meat into the grinder of paying tribute to the massive bureaucracy that's found feeder fish to sustain them. It's been reduced to a "process" here. I suspect as the herd gets culled ..we'll see it reduced to .06 to add more criminals to the list of marked citizens.
I rarely drink ...if a bottle of wine goes through my house in a years time I've seen an old friend or some special event has taken place.
I rarely drink ...if a bottle of wine goes through my house in a years time I've seen an old friend or some special event has taken place.
I used to love how Waffle House hash browns tasted...they now taste like they have been cooked on a griddle that still has some sort of cleaning chemical on it. They proudly proclaim the use of non-trans fat shortening.
A local fish joint has some of those big fat fish sandwiches, similar to those nice ones you might find at a firemans fry or similar. They have been my favorite fish sandwich for decades...until now. The fish tastes like it was cooked in a vat of oil that has some sort of cleaning solution dumped in it. It really makes me cringe with each bite. They proudly proclaim the change to a non-trans fat oil.
The free market is working because I simply can't stand the taste of some of my once favorite fast foods. And I will not purchase any more of these products.
It's not a statement...but more of a decision that I simply can't stand the taste of the daggone food that is cooked in this "healthy" swill.
Maybe we should all wear grey sack cloths and join in each morning for community calastntics and group meditation.
Just before we all head over to the community eatery and have some gruel together.
Healthy and happy...yessir, that's us!
A local fish joint has some of those big fat fish sandwiches, similar to those nice ones you might find at a firemans fry or similar. They have been my favorite fish sandwich for decades...until now. The fish tastes like it was cooked in a vat of oil that has some sort of cleaning solution dumped in it. It really makes me cringe with each bite. They proudly proclaim the change to a non-trans fat oil.
The free market is working because I simply can't stand the taste of some of my once favorite fast foods. And I will not purchase any more of these products.
It's not a statement...but more of a decision that I simply can't stand the taste of the daggone food that is cooked in this "healthy" swill.
Maybe we should all wear grey sack cloths and join in each morning for community calastntics and group meditation.
Just before we all head over to the community eatery and have some gruel together.
Healthy and happy...yessir, that's us!
You'll have to get used to the aroma of rancid polyunsaturates. The funny thing is that trans fats are created when you heat polyunsaturates, so you're still getting some trans fats in the food.
How much more would it cost to fry the foods in fresh high-oleic oils? Maybe 3 cents per serving? And they could sell the waste oils to the biodiesel refineries to offset some of the cost.
A very very coarse experiment on oils that I still haven't seen much info on (wish labman was still here).
If I take a piece of butter, and place it on my hand...it melts. Doesn't stay yellow and solid at body temp. Can leave it out (clarified at least, i.e. fat only), and it will stay pretty well as it was for ages.
If I take a piece of beef/lamb/duck dripping, and place it on my hand...it melts. Doesn't stay solid at body temp. Can leave it out, and it will stay pretty well as it was for ages.
Can take some linseed oil (I admit that it has heaps of essential fatty acids that we need), and it stays liquid in my palm, as it should. Leave it out, and it creates linoleum (heavily oxidised linseed oil), which doesn't melt in my palm.
If I take the "crust" from a bottle of polyunsaturated oil that's been opened and closed a few times, I can't "melt" that either.
I'm not a big fan of saturated fats. I acknowledge the need for fish oils (although I used to coat my car parts in them for their protective coating)...but household oils that leave a rubbery/plastic crust on the rim in contact with oxygen I steer clear of.
If I take a piece of butter, and place it on my hand...it melts. Doesn't stay yellow and solid at body temp. Can leave it out (clarified at least, i.e. fat only), and it will stay pretty well as it was for ages.
If I take a piece of beef/lamb/duck dripping, and place it on my hand...it melts. Doesn't stay solid at body temp. Can leave it out, and it will stay pretty well as it was for ages.
Can take some linseed oil (I admit that it has heaps of essential fatty acids that we need), and it stays liquid in my palm, as it should. Leave it out, and it creates linoleum (heavily oxidised linseed oil), which doesn't melt in my palm.
If I take the "crust" from a bottle of polyunsaturated oil that's been opened and closed a few times, I can't "melt" that either.
I'm not a big fan of saturated fats. I acknowledge the need for fish oils (although I used to coat my car parts in them for their protective coating)...but household oils that leave a rubbery/plastic crust on the rim in contact with oxygen I steer clear of.
I think the modest health benefits of modest alcohol consumption are generally accepted now. That said, it's easy to go too far.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alcohol/SC00024
As far as the various "nanny state" comments and whatnot we've seen here, I'd just say that the restrictions on alcohol sales and consumption are generally reasonable and are well supported by the public, and the restrictions that we are beginning to see on smoking are the same.
But there are side effects to drinking even moderate amounts. Many of the benefits of alcohol can be gained with food or supplements without those side effects. Now, I'm not against moderate drinking, I'm just pointing out that the reasons that are used to justify banning smoking can also pertain to alcohol.
Just for laughs, go to a search engine, and type in "smoking band".
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The Inuit coat their own parts with fish oil.
I take about 5 grams of fish oil every day myself.
Keeps my coat clean and glossy---I mean keeps my arteries clean and healthy.
Keeps my coat clean and glossy---I mean keeps my arteries clean and healthy.
Me to morning and night.
Fish oil might keep my car free of rust... and mice, since it'll be full of cats.
Read a quote pertinent to this earlier.
"Would you go to a public pool that had a "peeing section"?"
Pee is sterile (usually) and doesn't spread disease, but if a pool allowed people to pee in it, would you still go there (or even support their right to allow people to pee in it as they see fit ?)
"Would you go to a public pool that had a "peeing section"?"
Pee is sterile (usually) and doesn't spread disease, but if a pool allowed people to pee in it, would you still go there (or even support their right to allow people to pee in it as they see fit ?)
That's one of the things I miss most since moving from NY three years ago. I like going to a bar or restaurant and not getting hit by the stench of smoke.
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