I was all ready to make a portable smoking hood, kind of like the Cone of Silence in Get Smart, but they went and banned smoking.
Smoking banned INSIDE pubs and clubs.
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Smoking has been banned inside restaurants and 99 percent of public places in New york state for years now.
There was a big uproar at first, then it became the norm.
There was a big uproar at first, then it became the norm.
My friend owns a coffee house in Philly. Not a coffee house in the fun sense, but a tiny coffee+sandwiches place. She and all her friends smoke and opened this place so they would have a place to get together and do their "thing", smoke and drink coffee. Now they are banned from doing so. I hate cig smoke, but that's just not fair.
It ain't about health, second hand smoke or freedom. This is about the restaurant industry and their studies which show smokers stay at their tables on average 24 minutes longer than non smokers thereby reducing profits.
While the industry says it wants freedom of smoking determination and complains in public; they really just want more business.
No surprises here folks.
I'm of the mind that individual business owners should decide the smoking policy in their business, not the government.
For those who say the workers are exposed, it's simply, tell the workers up-front that this is a smoking establishment. If being around smokers is a problem, then perhaps they should withdraw their application to work here.
Likewise with customers. If the customers do not like it, they are free to choose non-smoking establishments.
Let the marketplace decide, not the government.
For those who say the workers are exposed, it's simply, tell the workers up-front that this is a smoking establishment. If being around smokers is a problem, then perhaps they should withdraw their application to work here.
Likewise with customers. If the customers do not like it, they are free to choose non-smoking establishments.
Let the marketplace decide, not the government.
"I'm all for not having to breathe in tobacco smoke (and garlic fumes). "
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The aroma of cooking always overcame the smell of cigarettes in my apartment house experiences. As one might expect, not always was it an agreeable aroma.
Mori is quite a libertarian and I like it!
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The aroma of cooking always overcame the smell of cigarettes in my apartment house experiences. As one might expect, not always was it an agreeable aroma.
Mori is quite a libertarian and I like it!
Apparantly in NYC a cigarette butt of the floor of a bar is "proof" that people have been smoking there. Liquor licenses can be lost for this.
Said butts can blow in, or stick to one's shoe. Apparantly the cops are real goons about it.
In Bangor ME you can't smoke in your own car if there's a child in with you.
Said butts can blow in, or stick to one's shoe. Apparantly the cops are real goons about it.
In Bangor ME you can't smoke in your own car if there's a child in with you.
I believe it is illegal to smoke in your car with a child present here too. I do smoke, but would never dream of smoking in my car with my daughter with me, nor do I smoke in my house. As far as restaurants, that ban dosent bother me because I go there to eat, I can wait till I get back in the car to smoke. I do however think that the owners of these businesses should decide what goes on in their establishments. I also believe that all these smoking bans are getting out of hand as well. Too many whiny babies in the world today. I understand banning where children have the potential to be, but bars? I dont want to kill you with my cigarette smoke any more than I want your drunk ____ to kill me on the way out of the parking lot.
Put dead weeds in your mouth and set fire to it. What a wonderful pastime
Welcome to California 1994 haha...and well `98 for bars here. It's absurd there is a second thought about banning smoking in restaurants and indoor public places...I may be only 21 but if I had kids I surely would not want to have them suffer inhaling smoke because someone else has made poor choices.
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I hope that is not a representation on how one thinks down in Wylie, TX.
Actually, John Stossel recently brought it up in one of his 'Myth, Lies, & Stupidity' segments on 20/20.
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I hope that is not a representation on how one thinks down in Wylie, TX.
The Pony Express hasn't brought the latest medical (decade-old) news to Texas yet.
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There's no dispute that any smoke inhaled does not promote good health. But the severity attributed to second hand smoke is (apparently) way over blown. It's probably trumped by other things that can, if equal effort were applied, be eliminated too.
Just put "second hand smoking myths" into google. Most aren't "pro-smoking" propaganda and some point out how one agency will use selected data to prove one thing in one case, yet discount the same methodology in others (the EPA, I believe)
Again, any smoke inhaled is bad smoke.
Just put "second hand smoking myths" into google. Most aren't "pro-smoking" propaganda and some point out how one agency will use selected data to prove one thing in one case, yet discount the same methodology in others (the EPA, I believe)
Again, any smoke inhaled is bad smoke.
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And that's why there is nothing to be discussed.
How big of a bag would be needed to contain all the smoke from smoking one cigarette?
All this bu&*sh^t is alot of the reason why I quit smoking and started dipping skoal.Theres nothing like getting done with a meal at a nice resturant and getting a big ole dip and spitting in the beer bottle of which you just finished and watching all the people around you look at you like you have 3 heads.
There' also nothing quite like oral cancer.
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