Small cracks Nexen N'Priz AH8 Shoulder?

Originally Posted by Jimzz
Yep had Nexen tires on my SiLs audi and the side started to come apart on both. Nexen did not stand behind them either.

Never use Nexen tires, they are junk. There are better tires for around the same price point so why waste good money on junk nexen tires.

I was surprised that they were good enough for me. I have had very bad experiences with some tires but like the way my car rides with these. Too bad they are not going the distance. Now that I think about it I adjusted my driving style to compensate for the tires.

I am going by Combs Tire tomorrow and would like to see what they say after showing them what is happening. I had a road hazard that took out my rear drivers tire at 4,829 miles. Combs replaced it with same model. No cracks. So it has gone about 10k. Code date 4116. Other tires I notice little cracks but very hard to see/minimal compared to the one I photographed. Why it varies?
 
Sorry I should have been clear. They are done like toast. Finished. Chuck em.

Surprised to see that level of cracking on 2 year old tires, not good.

Off topic, I had a tire seller up here try and sell me a couple 'new' tires with date codes almost a year and and half old. Told him to forget it.
 
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Originally Posted by MParr
MONKEYMAN
One of our members has a website with lots of information. He has been in the tire industry for many years. Take a look.
http://barrystiretech.com
His handle on this site is CapriRacer

Thanks! Sent him a PM.
 
I remember last year seeing some decent looking Nexen N5000 tires on CL for a very cheap price. I think $100 for all four, evenly worn with decent tread and only 25k miles on them with no patches. What could be wrong? When I asked why he was getting rid of them, he said there's a small hill by his home and he wasn't able to get up it in the winter time when it snowed. Not cheap tires either. He said he went with some Hankook all-seasons and no more issues. He kept reducing the price all the way down to $25 or so. I still passed since mounting would be another chunk.
 
So far, knock wood have been OK in snow. But I do utilize the Triptronic transmission to use engine to brake. Like having a Granny gear. On my Saturn mounted snow tires in front. Worked great. If I do replace the Nexens want tires excellent in Snow and Rain. Those are both situations where tires or lack of made a big difference. It does not seem like Winters are getting warmer either. I expect a real bad Winter any day.
 
My problem is the tearing around the tread chunks, like an up side down U, not the surface cracks. Keep running them but make sure you have a good spare and jack.
 
Originally Posted by DONWATERS
My problem is the tearing around the tread chunks, like an up side down U, not the surface cracks. Keep running them but make sure you have a good spare and jack.

Just inflated donut spare to 60 lbs. I am looking at Sam's and other places for a replacement set. The problem with tires you will see reviews of how great they are followed by worst tire I have ever had. Kinda interested in Cooper Evolution. Dobbs has them for $108 after mounting with lifetime rotation and balancing. The advantage is they have 40 locations. I bought CS4's and they were OK.
 
MONKEYMAN
The Cooper Evolution is the updated version of the CS3 Touring. I had a set of the CS3s on a 2006 Hyundai Tucson. The dealer put them on to make good on a pitiful set of General Altimax RT43s. I bought those RT43s based on Tire Rack reviews. My mistake. The Cooper CS3s were better than the RT43s in every category.
 
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Originally Posted by MParr
MONKEYMAN
The Cooper Evolution is the updated version of the CS3 Touring. I had a set of the CS3s on a 2006 Hyundai Tucson. The dealer put them on to make good on a pitiful set of General Altimax RT43s. I bought those RT43s based on Tire Rack reviews. My mistake. The Cooper CS3s were better than the RT43s in every category.

This is where it gets confusing. Replaced my CS5's on 15" aluminum rims that leaked with RT43's on 14" rims from salvage yard. Loved those. Also installed KYB struts all around in my Saturn and it was very responsive. However, a person put the RT43's on their Elantra and they were tracking. Had to replace with other tire due to problems. Here are some of the choices at Dobbs. My head is spinning.
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Dobbs Tire
 
MONKEYMAN
With my experience with the RT43s, I DO NOT recommend them. The Cooper Evolution is an updated CS3 Touring and I DO recommend those. I had the CS3s and was very pleased. The CS5s are another highly recommended tire here at BITOG.
 
Originally Posted by MONKEYMAN
Did second rotation on my 2017 Elantra SE. First rotation at 7,082 miles. Today rotated at 14,900. Noticed a pattern form on most of the tires. This was the most noticeable example. This tire was originally the drivers side front tire, then passenger rear. These are 195/65R15 T-rated tires. I tend to keep pressure at 38 to 40. When I rotated them today they were at 35 lbs. Door sticker say 36. I do a lot of turns with 4 mile commute to work. Take side streets a lot.

Usually I feather the shoulder. The outer edge looks in great condition. It just shows stress or wear a little inside the shoulder. Should I be concerned? Suggestions?



This is the tread rubber cracking due to age. Most of the time, the tread rubber wears away faster than it ages, so you never see cracks. In this case, the opposite is occurring. Notice the cracking in the cross groove.

If I was advising Nexen, I'd tell them to increase the antioxidant levels in the tread compound, but for the consumer, my advice is a little more convoluted.

I think the cracking is not a cause for alarm. Unlike some tire manufacturers who use crack resistant rubbers - ones that don't give a good clue to the state of the rubber near the belt edge (the area of the tire that is most important!) - Nexen is doing the opposite. They are producing tires that look worse than they really are.

So my advice would be to continue to run the tires, and schedule periodic inspections. When the cracks in the grooves get bad enough, then replace the tires. Best guess: a year.

Alternatively, call their 800 number: TOLL-FREE: (800) 576-3936 | (866) 706-3936. Ask for an adjustment and directions to a dealer that will handle this. In some respects this is the preferred way to handle this as this would signal Nexen that there is an on-going problem that they have to fix. Not only that, but the dealer could cut a deal where they "officially" adjust the tires (which normally requires replacing the tires with the same brand), but unofficially move you into a different brand.
 
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
MONKEYMAN said:
This is the tread rubber cracking due to age. Most of the time, the tread rubber wears away faster than it ages, so you never see cracks. In this case, the opposite is occurring. Notice the cracking in the cross groove.



OP says this is a 2017 model year car. Should rubber be aging that fast?
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MONKEYMAN
The TrueContact you referenced has a T speed rating and 800 treadwear. Man, those things will be hard as rocks and about like what you have now. You will be more satisfied with an H rated tire with a treadwear rating no higher than 700. Listen to what CapriRacer said and go that route first. Nexen may be able to help you out. Nexen does have the same tire with an H speed rating. Nexen's product code is 15711 size 195/65/15 speed rating H. And when you get ready for new tires, make sure they are fresh. Tire dealers like to move their older stock, first.
 
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Originally Posted by CapriRacer
Originally Posted by MONKEYMAN
Did second rotation on my 2017 Elantra SE. First rotation at 7,082 miles. Today rotated at 14,900. Noticed a pattern form on most of the tires. This was the most noticeable example. This tire was originally the drivers side front tire, then passenger rear. These are 195/65R15 T-rated tires. I tend to keep pressure at 38 to 40. When I rotated them today they were at 35 lbs. Door sticker say 36. I do a lot of turns with 4 mile commute to work. Take side streets a lot.

Usually I feather the shoulder. The outer edge looks in great condition. It just shows stress or wear a little inside the shoulder. Should I be concerned? Suggestions?



This is the tread rubber cracking due to age. Most of the time, the tread rubber wears away faster than it ages, so you never see cracks. In this case, the opposite is occurring. Notice the cracking in the cross groove.

If I was advising Nexen, I'd tell them to increase the antioxidant levels in the tread compound, but for the consumer, my advice is a little more convoluted.

I think the cracking is not a cause for alarm. Unlike some tire manufacturers who use crack resistant rubbers - ones that don't give a good clue to the state of the rubber near the belt edge (the area of the tire that is most important!) - Nexen is doing the opposite. They are producing tires that look worse than they really are.

So my advice would be to continue to run the tires, and schedule periodic inspections. When the cracks in the grooves get bad enough, then replace the tires. Best guess: a year.

Alternatively, call their 800 number: TOLL-FREE: (800) 576-3936 | (866) 706-3936. Ask for an adjustment and directions to a dealer that will handle this. In some respects this is the preferred way to handle this as this would signal Nexen that there is an on-going problem that they have to fix. Not only that, but the dealer could cut a deal where they "officially" adjust the tires (which normally requires replacing the tires with the same brand), but unofficially move you into a different brand.

Thanks. Not sure if it is an OEM thing. But the replacement Nexen has no cracks. Could the OEM's be a little different?

I do my own maintenance so I will be keeping an eye on things.

Regarding dealership I may drop by today to show them what is happening. My concern is I rotate my own tires and do my own oil and filter changes. I am not sure how helpful they will be. I am not very assertive and kinda slow with thinking. So dealing with them is not ideal for me.

I will call those numbers and see what happens. Cross fingers.
 
Originally Posted by novadude
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
MONKEYMAN said:
This is the tread rubber cracking due to age. Most of the time, the tread rubber wears away faster than it ages, so you never see cracks. In this case, the opposite is occurring. Notice the cracking in the cross groove.



OP says this is a 2017 model year car. Should rubber be aging that fast?


Well, no, but it is possible that Nexen is the odd man out when it comes to antioxidants.

Ya' see, most tire manufacturers have a certain level of antioxidants they add to the tread rubber to slow down the aging process. Perhaps, Nexen hasn't quite caught up to where everyone else is.
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Originally Posted by MONKEYMAN
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
Originally Posted by MONKEYMAN
Did second rotation on my 2017 Elantra SE. First rotation at 7,082 miles. Today rotated at 14,900. Noticed a pattern form on most of the tires. This was the most noticeable example. This tire was originally the drivers side front tire, then passenger rear. These are 195/65R15 T-rated tires. I tend to keep pressure at 38 to 40. When I rotated them today they were at 35 lbs. Door sticker say 36. I do a lot of turns with 4 mile commute to work. Take side streets a lot.

Usually I feather the shoulder. The outer edge looks in great condition. It just shows stress or wear a little inside the shoulder. Should I be concerned? Suggestions?



This is the tread rubber cracking due to age. Most of the time, the tread rubber wears away faster than it ages, so you never see cracks. In this case, the opposite is occurring. Notice the cracking in the cross groove.

If I was advising Nexen, I'd tell them to increase the antioxidant levels in the tread compound, but for the consumer, my advice is a little more convoluted.

I think the cracking is not a cause for alarm. Unlike some tire manufacturers who use crack resistant rubbers - ones that don't give a good clue to the state of the rubber near the belt edge (the area of the tire that is most important!) - Nexen is doing the opposite. They are producing tires that look worse than they really are.

So my advice would be to continue to run the tires, and schedule periodic inspections. When the cracks in the grooves get bad enough, then replace the tires. Best guess: a year.

Alternatively, call their 800 number: TOLL-FREE: (800) 576-3936 | (866) 706-3936. Ask for an adjustment and directions to a dealer that will handle this. In some respects this is the preferred way to handle this as this would signal Nexen that there is an on-going problem that they have to fix. Not only that, but the dealer could cut a deal where they "officially" adjust the tires (which normally requires replacing the tires with the same brand), but unofficially move you into a different brand.

Thanks. Not sure if it is an OEM thing. But the replacement Nexen has no cracks. Could the OEM's be a little different?

I do my own maintenance so I will be keeping an eye on things.

Regarding dealership I may drop by today to show them what is happening. My concern is I rotate my own tires and do my own oil and filter changes. I am not sure how helpful they will be. I am not very assertive and kinda slow with thinking. So dealing with them is not ideal for me.

I will call those numbers and see what happens. Cross fingers.


If by dealership, you mean the car dealer - forget them. Call the 800 number and talk to Nexen directly. This would be a good opportunity to learn to be assertive. You have nothing to lose.
 
I called Nexen. Talked to David. Explained what I saw. He wanted me to email pictures which I did. Regarding assertive thing I have difficulty with reading, writing, math so takes me longer to process. If it comes to protecting someones health I can be very assertive.

I forgot the dealership after they overfilled my oil. Dealer who?
 
Originally Posted by MONKEYMAN
I called Nexen. Talked to David. Explained what I saw. He wanted me to email pictures which I did. Regarding assertive thing I have difficulty with reading, writing, math so takes me longer to process. If it comes to protecting someones health I can be very assertive.

I forgot the dealership after they overfilled my oil. Dealer who?

Hopefully Nexen steps up and takes care of you
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