Silicone ADBV - Always red?

[Sayjac]

Just to give some context to latest pic posted. On left is older Royal Purple with silicone adbv, and right is older ACDelco ecore with nitrile adbv. Same as Fleetguard OF confirmed, ACDelco makes no pretense of claiming black adbv other than nitrile.

Also, neither filter pictured has same construction now. Recent pics show both RP and ACD use Champ Labs newest ecore construction with metal end caps.

 

[hrv]

The black Fram ADBVs have a “satin” appearance, almost like silicone tubing. Nitrile has more of a “dull” look, IIRC.

I think that some are stuck on the orange look and if it is black it is rubber... The one I saw was black BUT it had a shiney look to it...

 

[hrv]

Got a reply back from Fram Tech and yes they are now using a black silicone anti drain back valve....so they are silicone and not rubber on the tuff guard...as the older orange ones get sold they will be replaced with black silicone..

 

[OVERKILL]

Got a reply back from Fram Tech and yes they are now using a black silicone anti drain back valve....so they are silicone and not rubber on the tuff guard...as the older orange ones get sold they will be replaced with black silicone..

Would you be willing to sacrifice one for the freezer test?

 

[hrv]

Would you be willing to sacrifice one for the freezer test?

NO I will continue using them on my cars....

 

[OVERKILL]

NO I will continue using them on my cars....

Well, that's unfortunate. I sacrificed an Ultra not too long ago.

 

[hrv]

Well, that's unfortunate. I sacrificed an Ultra not too long ago.

I will continue to sleep well with my Fram oil and air/cabin filters as I have in the past....

 

[bullwinkle]

I will continue to sleep well with my Fram oil and air/cabin filters as I have in the past....

I can't, they get a little too uncomfortable... the wife & the dog in bed wouldn't like them either! So the filters have to sleep on the shelf (or mounted on the car)!

 

[nthach]

You going to freeze one for us? LOL

You know, I might have to - I should have picked up a PH8A/3600/3614/4386/4967/6607/7317 at Walmart last night.

I’ll go there tomorrow. I don’t have a filter cutter, unlike some of you.

 

[silversport]

are the "red" ones always silicone???...I've noticed that some oil filters appear to have a more red rather than the more orange looking (to me anyway) ADV and wondered if some filters are just using that colored but non silicone ADV

Bill

 

[Sayjac]

are the "red" ones always silicone???...

Put simply, never seen an orange/red-ish adbv that isn't silicone. Or, one that makes the claim or has been proven to be other than silicone. Unfortunately, now because of recent changes and unsubstantiated claims from unreliable reps about black adbv being other than nitrile, I understand the question.

As for adbv 'shine' (or lack of it) being posited as some kind of proof of composition, not buying it. Too much of a leap for me. A protectant will shine up nitrile nicely.

 

[OVERKILL]

You know, I might have to - I should have picked up a PH8A/3600/3614/4386/4967/6607/7317 at Walmart last night.

I’ll go there tomorrow. I don’t have a filter cutter, unlike some of you.

Thanks

 

[nthach]

Thanks

Fudge, I forgot to go to Walmart. Tomorrow. And off to HF for an exhaust pipe cutter(or a new blade for my oscillating multi tool).

 

[ZeeOSix]

Fudge, I forgot to go to Walmart. Tomorrow. And off to HF for an exhaust pipe cutter(or a new blade for my oscillating multi tool).

A good tin snip will work good too.

 

[nthach]

A good tin snip will work good too.

I have two of those laying around. I’d rather send my used filters to @53' Stude (which I haven’t yet) for the forums instead of cursing like a sailor in the garage.

But I’ll take one for the team this time.

 

[hrv]

Are they always red???? NOPE...

 

[nthach]

Besides the freezer test, you can burn the ADBV which I plan to do for science. I think silicone shouldn’t burn easy, nitrile will burn smoky.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Besides the freezer test, you can burn the ADBV which I plan to do for science. I think silicone shouldn’t burn easy, nitrile will burn smoky.

https://www.j-flex.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Polymer-Identification-by-flame-Test.pdf

 

[nthach]

So Walmart only has the orange and purple/blue ADBV Frams. But, Home Depot had this. Stay tuned. No, those Diablo 3tpm blades aren’t my weapons to cut this filter.

 

[nthach]

Here’s the star of our show.