Silicone ADBV - Always red?

[NashNative]

Just now seeing this thread, sorry for the hold up. Sounds like you want to know what material the bypass valve is made of on the LF16002, correct? I'll see if I can get to the bottom of it.

 

[OVERKILL]

Just now seeing this thread, sorry for the hold up. Sounds like you want to know what material the bypass valve is made of on the LF16002, correct? I'll see if I can get to the bottom of it.

The anti-drainback valve, yes please, thank you!

 

[NashNative]

The anti-drainback valve, yes please, thank you!

Found out that we do make this filter in-house, and the anti-drain back valve is made of nitrile (NBR). Hope that helps!

 

[Sayjac]

Been following this thread because I was interested in the answer. Not implying it would be otherwise, but I appreciate the forthright answer and it's the conclusion I've always thought. Remains, 'I' only know of the one brand as noted claiming their black adbv to be something other than nitrile, specifically silicone. And that only on the website, (not box any longer since change of coo and from red to black adbv) where it says "silicon".

 

[OVERKILL]

Found out that we do make this filter in-house, and the anti-drain back valve is made of nitrile (NBR). Hope that helps!

Yes, it does, thank you.

 

[Drewby83]

First time seeing this on a FRAM but got a fram orange can for neighbor's Honda today. Has a blue ADBV.

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ Fram cross-breed ??

 

[Sayjac]

First time seeing this on a FRAM but got a fram orange can for neighbor's Honda today. Has a blue ADBV.

You should post a pic of it up, because afaik you have come upon a unicorn "Fram" OF. Only blue-ish adbv I'm aware of, Mitsubishi OEM and Super Tech MP series.

 

[Drewby83]

Here is the unicorn.

 

[tasch72]

That looks looks pretty close to the same shade of blue on the ADBV of the new Supertech MP-series. Is Fram possibly picking up some of the production on those and ran out of the orange ADBV's?

 

[Sayjac]

I'm 'pretty sure' it's the same adbv used on the MP series. At least from same Champ production chain. Imo, too close to be a coincidence. First Brands using some filter parts from Champ Labs side of production. Baseplate still looks like the Fram PH7317 has been and still metal center tube. As suggested, could be a shortage of the red adbv currently.

Props to Drewby83 for the pics. The Unicorn LIVES!

 

[hrv]

Here is the unicorn. View attachment 81730View attachment 81731

 

[hrv]

I bet the blue color is silicone too..

 

[hrv]

This thread by @The Critic from last year:

Black Silicone ADBV?

Denso's aftermarket oil filters feature a black-colored ADBV. We usually associate black ADBV's to be nitrile, not silicone. However, the Denso website clearly states their filters feature silicone ADBV's: https://densoautoparts.com/filters-oil-filters.aspx I e-mailed Denso and they replied...

bobistheoilguy.com

Had me thinking about commercial filters that are high-end that you'd THINK would have silicone ADBV's, but they are clearly black. How would one tell if the media from the company doesn't state one way or the other? @ZeeOSix mentioned freezing it, but that's difficult to do without sacrificing a filter.

In particular, my query resides in relation to the Fleetguard LF16002 which is the cross for the PH2/XG2 and FL-820S filters, using Fleetguard's synthetic nanofibre (I presume NanoNet) media. I've run the FL1A version on our boats and plan to continue doing so.

I recall them being a Parker unit, but I think they are almost all Parker, regardless of being nitrile or silicone.

I wonder if @NashNative our local Fleetguard guru would know?

no one says silicone has to be orange...silicone can be black...blue...red and clear and maybe more colors...

 

[OVERKILL]

no one says silicone has to be orange...silicone can be black...blue...red and clear and maybe more colors...

The point is that they usually are, hence the purpose of this thread, to seek out exceptions.

 

[nthach]

The black Fram ADBVs have a “satin” appearance, almost like silicone tubing. Nitrile has more of a “dull” look, IIRC.

 

[OVERKILL]

The black Fram ADBVs have a “satin” appearance, almost like silicone tubing. Nitrile has more of a “dull” look, IIRC.

You going to freeze one for us? LOL

 

[4WD]

 

[ZeeOSix]

Gotta Armor-All that nitrile to keep it supple.

 

[4WD]

Here is the unicorn. View attachment 81730View attachment 81731

Ford Racing filters have blue “flappers“