Years ago I didn't like Havoline because it seemed to cause engine noises in my cars and/or motorcycles that I didn't feel good about. I think it may be doing it again but this time with my Ford Fiesta. I bought some Havoline 5w20 in the 6 quart box. I like the idea for the environment that the plastic bags break down faster than jugs, but this oil doesn't seem like it's going to work for me long term, When I accelerate from a stop, if I step on it enough, I seem to hear tappets or something sometimes before it shifts up. I didn't notice this when I got the car when it had Valvoline conv 5w20 in it, or with the NAPA SB 5w20 I ran for a while after. I would have been better off to keep running either of those oils but I wanted to give the oil in the box a try so I did an OCI with it, and I'm not pleased with it. I'm going to change it again (I "might" wait until Spring, or might not) with Quaker State or SuperTech, and I doubt I'll hear those noises with these oils. If I do, I'll switch to Castrol which I've ran in cars I put over 250k miles on with very good results. I don't think the Havoline would hurt my engine if I kept running it until mid March as I planned to do. If I don't accelerate too much too fast I probably won't hear that tappet noise. I could have got the 5w30 Havoline, or the synthetic Pro DS 5w20 but I don't plan to.
Now I will try QS conv or ST conv. If I hear the noise with either of them, I'm switching to the big three and will not look back : Castrol, Valvoline, or PZ conv.
It's just that I almost never listen to the radio or to music when I drive any more. I listen to the sounds the car makes. I'll try QS and maybe ST because they're about $5 cheaper than the big 3 I mentioned above. But part of me just says I should run Castrol right now and forget about the other brands. If I heard any noises like that with Castrol, I could pretty much be sure it's not what I think it is but I'm willing to bet I will not.
Now I will try QS conv or ST conv. If I hear the noise with either of them, I'm switching to the big three and will not look back : Castrol, Valvoline, or PZ conv.
It's just that I almost never listen to the radio or to music when I drive any more. I listen to the sounds the car makes. I'll try QS and maybe ST because they're about $5 cheaper than the big 3 I mentioned above. But part of me just says I should run Castrol right now and forget about the other brands. If I heard any noises like that with Castrol, I could pretty much be sure it's not what I think it is but I'm willing to bet I will not.