Actually that’s also incorrect. The damage has to be caused by the product. If not won’t fly with the FTC.
2024 BRZ; Amsoil or other lube?
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Yes, they have to blame that product that you used first, that wasn't listed as acceptable to use and then show that it caused the damage. This is clearly not always going to go the way folks want. Folks here think they can use whatever they want and if they have an issue scream MM ACT! It's not that simple but yes, you may win if it gets that far. Much less hassle to stick with the manufacturer requires or recommends if you are a low risk person. MMA doesn't give you carte blanche to use whatever you want in your car and maintain the factory warranty. Dealer is a gate here in this process and your PITA factor can be quite high trying to get your MMA BRO! way with the manufacturer.
Amsoil will be good for 12 months easily and keep your rings clean
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Motul makes a couple for it. They are a French company. I don't know if you can get it in Canada. Mobil 1 ESP 0W-20 or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum also good. The Amsoil would probably protect your rings the best from deposits, however. Amsoil Noack numbers are great on their Signature Series.
https://www.motul.com/en-US/lubricants/recommendations/148770
agreed. if it's driven only 3k easy miles a year on AMSOIL Signature Series, I think we should debate 2 year OCI, not one.
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That is a product I always wanted to try but never did. I kind of forgot about it , worth me looking into though. I wish it was available from more sellers/distributors ?
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I will always do an oil change before winter storage, it is just something I prefer to do when I put the car to sleep. That's how the oil has so few miles on it, the car sleeps for 5 months and gets driven lightly for 7 months max. I just would not do 2 years even if it was fine to do it.
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We can get Motul locally here, it costs a pretty penny though.
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The Amsoil product does check most of my boxes for sure - currently running the 5w20 SS. No hesitation about the product at all. I'm still not 100 percent about warranty though, but I know there would never be an oil related failure with it and I would have very little to worry about.
What does your written warranty actually say?
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I don't know about any "fine print" but basically I need to change the oil at recommended intervals for an oil in the recommended viscosity range for the driving conditions I do, an oil API SN plus rated as this motor was developed in 2022
Recommend interval is? Miles? Time?
There isn’t any fine print really. Just what the book says.
And it really says all of that you posted else the warranty is void? That would be a new one if it did.
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It is listed as 10,000 kms / 6 months, * whichever comes first. Use a Subaru approved motor oil, consult with your dealer if a Subaru approved oil is not available.
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Well, then it looks like they want you to change your oil every six months. My sis-in-law drove her Ford C-Max about 50 miles per month & the dealer still brought her in every six months for service. Manual says use 0w-20, they used 5w-20. Northern CA. She got the extended warranty & service contract, so I assume that was all paid for.
Will they void your warranty? I wouldn't want to test it. Usually if you show receipts the warranty will remain intact. So this dealer is going to keep reminding you to bring it in every 6 months? I'd advise reading the warranty, yes all the fine print too. As far as bringing in your own oil, I knew a tech at a dealership who would just use whatever came out of the hose to refill after an oil change. I don't know if he kept the oil the customer brought in or threw it away, but that customer got the Kendall that was in their tank.
Will they void your warranty? I wouldn't want to test it. Usually if you show receipts the warranty will remain intact. So this dealer is going to keep reminding you to bring it in every 6 months? I'd advise reading the warranty, yes all the fine print too. As far as bringing in your own oil, I knew a tech at a dealership who would just use whatever came out of the hose to refill after an oil change. I don't know if he kept the oil the customer brought in or threw it away, but that customer got the Kendall that was in their tank.
The vast majority of sumps out there are filled with Group III oils, and nobody gives it a second thought, or even knows what the terminology means.
By all rights, the Formulators and additive guys are doing some incredible things with regular ,say, with Group 3 base oils that really did not exist not too many years ago, the SQ G-7 to note are above the past and are great oils , lots of hard work and testing went goes into and still is occurring on these oils to this day.
It’s still not a requirement. The only requirement for warranty is an oil that doesn’t cause damage.
Agreed. OP, listen to @GW. here. She developed oil burning with high quality synthetics at 5k OCIs.
I think your options are Euro oil (Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 0W-40 or Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30), Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30, or Amsoil. I'd personally run their 10W-30. You could change once a year that way.
You do not need to get your oil changed once a year to "make friends" at the service department so they'll help you. They will honor your warranty regardless. I also wouldn't take their word about the warranty whatsoever. They are not the ones who have the final say on that. Service advisors are notoriously poorly educated on this stuff.
Why do you want a 0W-xx when you're not running it in winter? You could run 10W-30 easily.
I disagree with this "big dollop." Subaru engines burn oil easily. I think they're one of the best examples of engines that won't do well on any "API SP lube."
Btw it's "Noack," eponymously named after Dr. Noack who created the test.