Can you explain how strip mining the earth makes EVs more environmentally friendly?Why not?
Can you explain how strip mining the earth makes EVs more environmentally friendly?Why not?
Is burning fuel environmentally friendly? Consumerism isn’t environmentally friendly in general, but there are trade offs. Most of an EV’s pollution is up front.Can you explain how strip mining the earth makes EVs more environmentally friendly?
I don't know if it is worse then fracking or tar sand oil extraction.Can you explain how strip mining the earth makes EVs more environmentally friendly?
Sure. Much of CA is ag. Our home in Petaluma is in wine country; a nice refuge from the grueling Silicon Valley.You need to spend some time in rural America - off the interstates, away from Silicon Valley, the flyover zone where the crops and cattle are grown. Many stations are present. I have relatives in SW Missouri who own one. And they are not alone. There are associations, conventions, lobbyists, etc. for them.
I don't know if it is worse then fracking or tar sand oil extraction.
Труд! Народовластие! Социализм!All about what is better for society as a whole. Are you all about money or do you care about the environment and future of our kids?
If I had a business and it was a law then I would do what was required. That is how laws work right?
There’s always little things that are the cost of doing business. Gas stations here are required to pump gas for disabled customers at a self service price. Provide air and water for customers. And bathrooms if located less than 660 feet from an interstate highway.
Sure. Much of CA is ag. Our home in Petaluma is in wine country; a nice refuge from the grueling Silicon Valley.
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OP probably never owned or operated a business, based on the comments here and other threads.Having been a business owner, I'm well aware.
The point is the OP has been positing these types of threads for years, wherein EVERYONE ELSE needs to step up. Suggest that he could do the same, and it's a raft of excuses.
Petaluma is in Sonoma County's Wine Country. Petaluma's name comes from the Miwok village named Péta Lúuma that was located on the banks of the Petaluma River.Since when was Petaluma wine country? I know it’s a farm town but I see the nearby areas are mostly dairy cattle. I remember visiting downtown seeing all the corrugated tin style buildings meant to look like farm buildings, and seeing an animal feed store next to the place where I was I had a meeting.
And the dig at Silicon Valley as not understanding rural America seems a bit weird. That area was mostly farmland 50 years ago. Even in the middle of cities there are still little holdouts like an orange grove here or a cherry orchard there. Santa Clara County still has an extensive agricultural economy, especially in Gilroy with garlic processing. I remember taking a train ride south to San Jose and seeing cattle grazing out the window in Fremont. As far as I know, they still call Stanford University “The Farm”. And the area around Fremont and Sunol includes a lot of farmland.
Petaluma is in Sonoma County's Wine Country. Petaluma's name comes from the Miwok village named Péta Lúuma that was located on the banks of the Petaluma River.
You are right that it is farm land; at one time was the chicken capital of the world. Locals call us "Chicken Town", especially in nearby Napa. They did close the beef slaughterhouse a few years ago due to problems.
I love it up there, only 90 minutes or so from our home in Los Gatos. There are wineries up north and down past Monterrey.
I wouldn’t consider Petaluma wine country. It’s a heavily congested area. Guys from Griggs Racing moved from Infineon to Petaluma a few (10?) yrs ago. Had a very “Bay Area” feel to it coming up from Morro Bay & Paso Robles.I dunno. I always thought of Petaluma as cow country. Clover-Stornetta, Cowgirl Creamery. Maybe even Lagunitas Brewing. Peanuts featured it as the site of a big arm wrestling competition.
Wine Country to me is Sonoma Valley. Healdsburg. Geyserville. Sonoma. Glen Ellen. Or the coastal vineyards. The whole corridor of Petaluma/Rohnert Park/Cotati/Santa Rosa seems more wine country adjacent like I’d consider American Canyon to not be wine country.
I wouldn’t consider Petaluma wine country. It’s a heavily congested area. Guys from Griggs Racing moved from Infineon to Petaluma a few (10?) yrs ago. Had a very “Bay Area” feel to it coming up from Morro Bay & Paso Robles.
I’m in Sacramento now, what a ****hole this place is
Haven’t been to Napa in years. Will take an occasional trip to the racetrack in Sonoma but that’s about it. Wife & I generally just head back home to the Central Coast & she can enjoy the wineries there(I’m not the biggest wine drinker even though I grew up on a vineyard).The city of Napa has tried to capture some wine country business. Oxbow Public Market is nice, but other attempts fell flat.
The wine business is odd though. Bronco Wine set up a large scale winery in the city of Napa and buy inexpensive but relatively high quality grapes from all over California and process them. I think some know the Charles Shaw brand sold at Trader Joe’s where some saw Napa on the label and thought it was Napa Valley wine.
As far as Napa/Sonoma wine country goes, it’s a little low on EV charging. I’ve seen lots of Teslas, but you’d think they would set up more Superchargers than just in Napa at the outlets. I’ve mentioned the free charging at the Coppola Winery in Healdsburg.
Yeah they hyped incidences from OLD gas station storage tanks that leaked a trace amount. Understand ANY tank in any disrepair will leak anything. The corn lobby - rust belt politicians jumped on it like white on rice to force ethanol on us.Water quality. I get that MTBE isn’t all that toxic, but MTBE died after several leaks affected groundwater taste. Going back to MTBE is a nonstarter.
Haven’t been to Napa in years. Will take an occasional trip to the racetrack in Sonoma but that’s about it. Wife & I generally just head back home to the Central Coast & she can enjoy the wineries there(I’m not the biggest wine drinker even though I grew up on a vineyard).
It is surprising a bit hearing there’s not many public charging stations in Napa. Given the area I would have guessed otherwise. I can understand though that the distribution power system is older in that portion of the PG&E territory
NopeOP probably never owned or operated a business, based on the comments here and other threads.
I have always said I am willing to pay higher taxes.Having been a business owner, I'm well aware.
The point is the OP has been positing these types of threads for years, wherein EVERYONE ELSE needs to step up. Suggest that he could do the same, and it's a raft of excuses.