Septum rings are ugly

Those nose rings are used by ranchers to control a bull.

Oh, sorry -- not a fan.
That is exactly the first thought that crosses my mind, whenever I see a woman with a nose ring. I wonder, why they want to have the same hardware as a farm animal.

The young lady at the front desk of a hotel I was checking out of last week, had a nose ring. I have to focus real hard on maintaining direct eye contact. Even then, I can't help but think about the sanitation issue of nose and lip jewelry. It grosses me out when I think about it.

Do y'all's wives / girlfriends know how you think and talk about women?
Oh, absolutely. My wife is as repulsed by face/lip/nose piercings as I am. Perhaps more so. She will say what she thinks of a woman with a nose ring or a tongue piercing much quicker than I do. I try to follow the "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" maxim. As you can see, I'm not perfect at it.

And to be clear, we are not trash talking women. We are trash talking questionable life choices, in this case face piercings. I respect everyone, at least I try to. I don't respect bad decisions.
 
They will be, once they're in their 30s and want to settle down, only to find out no successful man wants a tattooed up and pierced woman as his wife and mother of his children. Just like no woman wants a guy with no job. Except a guy can always get a job, but tattoos and scars from weird piercings stay forever.

I dont know if you could paint this picture with a more broad stroke if you tried. Sure the taste isnt for everyone, but plenty of people have absolutely zero issues with tattoos or piercings in a partner, and also amazingly, have figured out how to make money along the way.
 
That is exactly the first thought that crosses my mind, whenever I see a woman with a nose ring. I wonder, why they want to have the same hardware as a farm animal.

The wife and I both grew up near farms, and both of us see them the same way. So we don't find them at all attractive. Our daughter in her 20's, has said the same.

But we feel that people are certainly free to do with their own bodies as they wish.
 
I have a female co-worker, probably close to 40 years old, that has a septum ring. It’s one of those bedazzled ones. I honestly have a hard time looking at her in the face when talking to her. I have seen plenty of women with nose rings throughout my life. I think the first time when I was a child at the doctor's office, the Asian Indian woman doctor had a stud in her nose. A small loop or stud on one of the nostrils, wouldn’t even get a second glance from me in today’s world, but the hog rings is just too much. What’s your take on septum rings?

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Bill Engvall asked if they lost a fight to a nail gun. "Since when did shrapnel become a fashion accessory"?
 
Not particularly something I find attractive, but it's not about me.

In another life, I learned very early on not to judge someone by how they look. Probably saved me lots of trouble and kept me alive too. It was beaten into my puny cop brain when I still had pricetags on my uniform to never underestimate my adversary. Valuble lesson applicable in so many areas of life it seems.
 
according to my kids, the piercings indicate "proclivities" for certain activities. The tongue piercings especially.

the nose rings can be a removable type, and is worn to raves to indicate desire to be involved in a certain activity.

and no, I didn't ask - I don't want to know
 
according to my kids, the piercings indicate "proclivities" for certain activities. The tongue piercings especially.

the nose rings can be a removable type, and is worn to raves to indicate desire to be involved in a certain activity.

and no, I didn't ask - I don't want to know

Only tongue and genital have the possibility of sexual meanings.

Many cultures have piercings that have cultural or religious meanings.
 
I see excesses often. Some are small like plastic ducks on a Jeep's dasnboard.
I feel people should have an appreciation for the polution plastics create during manufacture and after use as they break down.
We shouldn't be making more bad garbage than we need to.

Call it social badging or anything else. To me it's thoughtless consumerism at the very least.

That tatts and piercings and even Jeep ducks appear as fads should diminish their appeal by definition.
Fads -think them marketing (lying) and you being stupid and childish- are mostly bad and seldom stick around with meaningful positive effect.

In another thread, someone here mentioned spending money in a way which improves things or adds value.

People don't "wake up one morning" wanting piercings, tattoos or ducks. They're coveting, imagining a result and being followers.
You could call it scary.

Yesterday, I happily bounced about offices of my doctor (annual), a podiatrist, an x-ray room and a lab (bloodwork).
The number of large handeled paper shopping bags full of plastic trays I saw made me cry.
I wanted to say, "Doesn't anyone here carry their lunch?"

None of them are on a budget tight enough to prompt thrift? I guess that's progress. [shrug emoji]
 
I see excesses often. Some are small like plastic ducks on a Jeep's dasnboard.
I feel people should have an appreciation for the polution plastics create during manufacture and after use as they break down.
We shouldn't be making more bad garbage than we need to.

Call it social badging or anything else. To me it's thoughtless consumerism at the very least.

That tatts and piercings and even Jeep ducks appear as fads should diminish their appeal by definition.
Fads -think them marketing (lying) and you being stupid and childish- are mostly bad and seldom stick around with meaningful positive effect.

In another thread, someone here mentioned spending money in a way which improves things or adds value.

People don't "wake up one morning" wanting piercings, tattoos or ducks. They're coveting, imagining a result and being followers.
You could call it scary.

Yesterday, I happily bounced about offices of my doctor (annual), a podiatrist, an x-ray room and a lab (bloodwork).
The number of large handeled paper shopping bags full of plastic trays I saw made me cry.
I wanted to say, "Doesn't anyone here carry their lunch?"

None of them are on a budget tight enough to prompt thrift? I guess that's progress. [shrug emoji]

So if people don't live exactly like you, are they wrong?
 
Not sure why some find stuff like this funny. The statistics are clear, 45% of prime working-age women (ages 25 to 44) in the United States may be single and childless by 2030.
If you look at our society today, it's "cooked".

You have corporations and the government telling young women, "men = scum bags", that's one issue.

The second the number of single parent families is increasing and when there is no solid male figure in a household, things can take a turn for the worse. Young women not only look to their mothers, but their fathers for guidance as well.

Nothing wrong with a independent woman, let's get that out of the way. But many young women these days are not enticed by finding the right man until the right man has gone. You can't find what you are not looking for to begin with.

When I was working corporate in a large Canadian city for a one of the largest consulting firms in the world, the women there were extremely intelligent. But I noticed their corporate success affected their personal life. Some did not have the time to date. Others, well, they thought they were the greatest thing, and would "rotate" with men inside and outside the firm, never being able to quench their thirst. Not to blow my own horn, but I was always approached by women to "join" their rotation or I knew they had one going on, I would kindly reject them stating I don't "**** where I eat". Word got around I was "Old Testament" not only in my firm, but neighboring firms, and apparently I became a "prize" because I was hard to break. Go figure, having self respect and not sleeping around aimlessly gains you some street cred.

Anyways, after I left, many "scandals" came out to light from what I heard in the grapevine about unwarranted, sexual approaches etc.

Then we have the education system. To have a high paying job (CPA, MBA, CFA, Dentist, Physician, etc) you're focusing around 3-4 years in your undergrad, 3-4 years in post grad, and that's not including the hours you need to accumulate etc. So when you're out of school, you have 8 years or so of academics under your belt, some work experience and debt. You'd think you will meet someone in that time in your classes etc, but honestly, that's a rare occurrence I would say.

We can go on forever. Yes, don't judge a book by its cover, give people a chance, and so forth! But I'll be brutally honest, majority, not all, of the women I've come across that have a septum ring piercing and/or colored hair, are on the opposite spectrum of my moral, political, religious and cultural beliefs, and that's okay. Why would I try to change someone?


These are staggering stats and the outlook does not look good for women especially, since most do have a strong desire to have a family and raise kids. Their "sunset" years will be nothing but loneliness and misery that a house full of cats cannot fulfill.

Turns out the crazy cat lady from The Simpsons was not just a character, it was a glimpse of the future.
 
If you look at our society today, it's "cooked".

You have corporations and the government telling young women, "men = scum bags", that's one issue.

The second the number of single parent families is increasing and when there is no solid male figure in a household, things can take a turn for the worse. Young women not only look to their mothers, but their fathers for guidance as well.

Nothing wrong with a independent woman, let's get that out of the way. But many young women these days are not enticed by finding the right man until the right man has gone. You can't find what you are not looking for to begin with.

When I was working corporate in a large Canadian city for a one of the largest consulting firms in the world, the women there were extremely intelligent. But I noticed their corporate success affected their personal life. Some did not have the time to date. Others, well, they thought they were the greatest thing, and would "rotate" with men inside and outside the firm, never being able to quench their thirst. Not to blow my own horn, but I was always approached by women to "join" their rotation or I knew they had one going on, I would kindly reject them stating I don't "**** where I eat". Word got around I was "Old Testament" not only in my firm, but neighboring firms, and apparently I became a "prize" because I was hard to break. Go figure, having self respect and not sleeping around aimlessly gains you some street cred.

I agree with everything you said except this.

There are plenty of good women out there just like there's plenty of good men out there

The bar has equalized and too many men don't realize it. The only ones who complain about women and dating nowadays are the ones who think women should be their household slave and only clean, cook, and bend over whenever the husband wants; or the guy thinks all they need to be is nice and have a job regardless of their crappy attitude and shallow personality.

Plenty of guys that sleep with their coworkers too, married or not.

Example, Harvey Weinstein. Need not to talk about Epstein either.

Tl;dr, just as many women complain about low quality men just like how men complain about low quality women.
 
I agree with everything you said except this.

There are plenty of good women out there just like there's plenty of good men out there
I never said there are not any good women or men out there. Are they easy to find? No. Are they there? Yes.
The bar has equalized and too many men don't realize it.
Big time. However, I don't support the whole women/men can do whatever the opposite gender can do. I can't give birth. . . So there's that. I respect equality across sexes, ethnicity etc, but I don't respect when people throw out basic objectivity and logic because of their feelings.
The only ones who complain about women and dating nowadays are the ones who think women should be their household slave and only clean, cook, and bend over whenever the husband wants; or the guy thinks all they need to be is nice and have a job regardless of their crappy attitude and shallow personality.
This goes for women too. There are women who don't want to adhere to traditional roles, but yet expect men to foot the bill for everything. Men, and women, are both guilty of this. But I know plenty of women happy to be a household wife while the man is happy to be the bread winner. Different strokes for different folks. Depends on cultures as well.
Plenty of guys that sleep with their coworkers too, married or not.
Yes, very well aware of this, With the mature crowd here, I would assume that many could draw that conclusion on their own. I'm giving my opinion as a man, who is a heterosexual. Both men and women, not all, sleep around. I prefer the sleep around crowd sticks to one another and rotate accordingly.
Example, Harvey Weinstein. Need not to talk about Epstein either.

Tl;dr, just as many women complain about low quality men just like how men complain about low quality women.
Yes.

In reality they have to stop seeing themselves as the prize.
 
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I have a female co-worker, probably close to 40 years old, that has a septum ring. It’s one of those bedazzled ones. I honestly have a hard time looking at her in the face when talking to her. I have seen plenty of women with nose rings throughout my life. I think the first time when I was a child at the doctor's office, the Asian Indian woman doctor had a stud in her nose. A small loop or stud on one of the nostrils, wouldn’t even get a second glance from me in today’s world, but the hog rings is just too much. What’s your take on septum rings?

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Don’t like em don’t like tat sleeves on arms or legs face tats not a fan of ear lobe gaging either. Self mutilation is bodily harm and should be looked at as a mental illness. Sorry if any are offended.
 
So if people don't live exactly like you, are they wrong?
It's not that, it's many failing to see the wastefulness of many choises.

That the cost of post-user garbage etc. isn't addressed is bad. The economy of disposable plastic drink bottles is false.
People should resist waste and be aware that their tastes might be transatory and that promoted unoriginality taps your resources before you can spend them better.
 
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