Saw someone walk out of Lowes without paying

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This is what you meant to say....



"The reason that policy is in place is to protect the company in case an employee "hurts" a shoplifter and sues.

If someone shoplifts.. if you're a customer, pretty much the only thing you can do is watch them do it. Maybe pick up a phone and call police.



We could get into the debate about a "citizens arrest".. was a witness to a situation like that once. Guy recognized someone he swore up and down "got away with" something.. stole his car, something, I dont know. Wanted to do a "citizens arrest" (tackle the person to the ground. and hold them there until police arrive) but decided not to..



Sort of like if you know someone has a warrant. There are people that will tell you that you don't need police to "arrest" them. And there goes your whole Bounty Hunter/Fugitive Recovery scam artist racket.
 
If someone shoplifts.. if you're a customer, pretty much the only thing you can do is watch them do it. Maybe pick up a phone and call police.



We could get into the debate about a "citizens arrest".. was a witness to a situation like that once. Guy recognized someone he swore up and down "got away with" something.. stole his car, something, I dont know. Wanted to do a "citizens arrest" (tackle the person to the ground. and hold them there until police arrive) but decided not to..



Sort of like if you know someone has a warrant. There are people that will tell you that you don't need police to "arrest" them. And there goes your whole Bounty Hunter/Fugitive Recovery scam artist racket.

What I think poster was referring to is Jim Carrey in Liar Liar when he had to tell the truth.. "I'd have got him 10." (For those not familiar, that's $10 million dollars for a burglar falling through a roof and landing on a kitchen knife. She just told him how another lawyer got someone 6.)
7-Eleven and other convenience stores have the same policy. Some famous news stories years back described 7-Eleven employees chasing and tackling shoplifters running from the store, then getting fired for it.
That was also AutoZone with a Marine working there.

Bravery and "protecting the store" equals termination.
 
If anybody thinks this is ok please post your address so we can all come over and get some of your stuff. The problem with justifying some stealing as ok is that it it is still stealing ...not from banks or stores or thise filthy rich fools but from the other shoppers are paying that bill.
New York City just decided not to press charges on the looters downtown shortly after the end of May 2020, including whoever drove up to a Fendi store in a Bentley Bentayga or whatever it was with no plates and filled it up with stuff.

Is anyone surprised?
 
The world is just getting weird. The best policy is to just go about your business and not get involved unless you are directly affected. No telling what could happen if you try to confront someone these days.
 
7-Eleven and other convenience stores have the same policy. Some famous news stories years back described 7-Eleven employees chasing and tackling shoplifters running from the store, then getting fired for it.
A famous politician once said "You have to have a slight Indian accent to work at 7-Eleven"....of course he didn't suffer for his racist comment because he belonged to the political party that our elitist mainstream media favors ...
 
A famous politician once said "You have to have a slight Indian accent to work at 7-Eleven"....of course he didn't suffer for his racist comment because he belonged to the political party that our elitist mainstream media favors ...
Is it an even bigger scandal that Apu on the Simpsons for about 25 years wasn't an Indian but a white guy pretending to be Indian?

No one even notices that David Carradine wasn't Asian. Richardo Montalban was a Mexican playing the part of Khan in Star Trek who is supposed to be Indian.

Then you've got movies like The Last Samurai staring Tom Cruise, The Mexican with Brad Pitt, etc....
 
If anybody thinks this is ok please post your address so we can all come over and get some of your stuff. The problem with justifying some stealing as ok is that it it is still stealing ...not from banks or stores or thise filthy rich fools but from the other shoppers are paying that bill.
It is not ok, but it is cheaper than enforcing it, that's the stores' business model when they switch to self checkout and when they pay their insurance bill after their insurance companies ran the math.

You know what else is cheaper? Closing stores where this happen a lot. We are starting to see that and this is exactly what the local "shoppers" get when they attempt these kind of things.

Don't like it either, but this country is run by lawyers for the lawyers, so this is unlikely to change anytime soon.
 
Dunno. Maybe they needed a whole group of guards?

Because armed guards in that sort of situation are just figure heads and have abundant liability attached. Can you imagine the headline "woman shot at Lowe's over weedeater" the media would have a field day. It is much easier to just let people walk out with stuff or close the store.

I'm not saying it is right, but those are the facts.

If there was a real possibility of getting shot or at the very least throughly beat and tossed in jail it would cut way down on this kind of stuff, (assuming what is reported is what was actually happening, which is doubtful) but there isn't.
 
Shoplifters may get away with it in stores but when they come my way and try to rob me and/or hurt my family they're likely going to be surprised and find themselves looking down the barrel of my shotgun or 9mm. I don't carry a weapon for the cool factor but as a tool if someone is a threat to me or my family.
 
It seems that now days people don't want to get involved anymore, I would have went out and grabbed the weedeater and brought it back in. Couple of days ago a lady was getting her purse robbed by a homeless man and people just stood around filming with their phones, this was on the evening news, same with the asians getting sucker punched and people stand around letting it happen, caught on camera was a small female bailiff escorting a prisoner out of court and he turned on her trying to get her gun, two guys who witnessed it turned and ran, an older gentleman walked out the same courtroom saw what was happening and grabbed the prisoner around the throat till other bailiffs came running to assist. I don't find it interesting I find it cowardly. :mad:
If I ever saw one of those Asian ladies even get slightly touched, let's just say the roach who touched her would no longer be breathing.
 
They built a brand new Lowes on the wrong side of town here a few years back. There was so much shoplifting that they closed it after only a couple of years. Now we have a brand new empty building.
I don't even know why Lowe's would be so stupid as to put a store in the hood.
 
When I worked for Safeway we were told we would be suspended or fired if we tackled or followed a shoplifter out of the store. I gave up, if corporate refuses to prosecute that's what happens.
 
Something else I thought about. The op said she was "in line" at a cashier station. If she was returning or swapping out a defective one, she wouldn't be in a cashier's line, she would be at Customer Service, where you can't make regular purchases, and you can't do a return or swap at a cashier's line. This reinforces the op's notion that she may have indeed walk out with a brand new item.

Just my opinion.
 
For all we know, they followed the thief on CCTV and got the license plate of the car and have a close working relationship with the local police department.

If it was in fact theft, odds are she is already known to local law enforcement or will be soon. Stealing outdoor power equipment isn't something you just decide to do one day, or because you really need to cut some grass and don't have any money. It's part of a lifestyle that probably revolves around drugs. Someone else is having her do this in exchange for drugs or money so that they aren't the one on camera. If she was in fact stealing, that lady is going to be in and out of court and jail for a lot of things. The weed eater may or may not be part of that, but either way it's probably the tip of the "ice"berg. She probably needs serious help, not a beat down. If someone is stealing weed eaters, they probably hate their life.
 
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Even if they were stealing, all LP could do is take a plate number anyway.

People probably think they can shoot to kill.
Yep. LP's can't lay a finger on perpetrators. All they can do is ask the perpetrator nicely to please stop, unfortunately.
 
Something else I thought about. The op said she was "in line" at a cashier station. If she was returning or swapping out a defective one, she wouldn't be in a cashier's line, she would be at Customer Service, where you can't make regular purchases, and you can't do a return or swap at a cashier's line. This reinforces the op's notion that she may have indeed walk out with a brand new item.

Just my opinion.
So how do you leave the store then?

Same doors as everyone else.
 
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