Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
You sure did, but we didn't get a whole lot of discussion over it, so I've brought it up again, as per the first part of my post. I think this really needs to be talked about.
Regarding the pricing, of course 400,000,000 is a lot of money. But it is 400,000,000 on a 7,400,000,000 project. However, one must consider the COST of that 400,000,000. Which is buddy making $12/day on his 16/7 work schedule. That job going to what amounts to slave labour instead of Americans working reasonable hours and making livable wages. That is the difference between the first and third world folks. And now we are being sold out at the government level!
I agree. That $400 million "savings" comes at a bigger cost and loss to the US economy. It will be subsidized through increased unemployment, lost taxes etc. Talk about a scheme. And who knows what the quality of the bridge might be and it's real long-term costs. It's a bad thing. What's next, Chinese workers come over and replace other workers in other fields? Maybe chinese Drs., computer programers, the possiblities are endless! And we'll "save" lot's of money except we want ahve any jobs or money. I thinking this decision is intentionally trying to put Americans out of work and out of business.
Then why isn't the steel producers' state come in and pay a subsidies to make up for the difference in bidding?
I'm not against keeping the money in the US, but there are a lot of people already angered by the GM and Chrysler bail out and refuse to buy them and the government policy reflected that. IMO the state and federal government should be subsidizing a cost difference to make not the buyer (California citizens like me) to pay significantly more.
I'll be happy to pay maybe $100M more to companies and workers in some states who try their best to keep jobs in the US, but not the others who are chanting against big government helping to keep jobs in the US. They shouldn't be benefiting from my local sales tax and toll money especially if their deals are worse than oversea.
Either way, my vote isn't counted as a state gov with financial crisis and over budget will place its own priority over other states. This bridge has been 20 years in delay and way over budget that the state gov are scraping every dime to get it open sooner and cheaper.
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
You sure did, but we didn't get a whole lot of discussion over it, so I've brought it up again, as per the first part of my post. I think this really needs to be talked about.
Regarding the pricing, of course 400,000,000 is a lot of money. But it is 400,000,000 on a 7,400,000,000 project. However, one must consider the COST of that 400,000,000. Which is buddy making $12/day on his 16/7 work schedule. That job going to what amounts to slave labour instead of Americans working reasonable hours and making livable wages. That is the difference between the first and third world folks. And now we are being sold out at the government level!
I agree. That $400 million "savings" comes at a bigger cost and loss to the US economy. It will be subsidized through increased unemployment, lost taxes etc. Talk about a scheme. And who knows what the quality of the bridge might be and it's real long-term costs. It's a bad thing. What's next, Chinese workers come over and replace other workers in other fields? Maybe chinese Drs., computer programers, the possiblities are endless! And we'll "save" lot's of money except we want ahve any jobs or money. I thinking this decision is intentionally trying to put Americans out of work and out of business.
Then why isn't the steel producers' state come in and pay a subsidies to make up for the difference in bidding?
I'm not against keeping the money in the US, but there are a lot of people already angered by the GM and Chrysler bail out and refuse to buy them and the government policy reflected that. IMO the state and federal government should be subsidizing a cost difference to make not the buyer (California citizens like me) to pay significantly more.
I'll be happy to pay maybe $100M more to companies and workers in some states who try their best to keep jobs in the US, but not the others who are chanting against big government helping to keep jobs in the US. They shouldn't be benefiting from my local sales tax and toll money especially if their deals are worse than oversea.
Either way, my vote isn't counted as a state gov with financial crisis and over budget will place its own priority over other states. This bridge has been 20 years in delay and way over budget that the state gov are scraping every dime to get it open sooner and cheaper.
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