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Originally Posted by Gokhan
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Gokhan
Luxury sports sedan challenge: Is the BMW 3 series still best?

Audi tops the list despite its lackluster handling; Cadillac has the best steering. BMW is said to be "already struggling."

From your writing it is obvious you never had an opportunity to drive these cars. Some who does comparison tests with car on winter tires in 90 degree weather with other cars on performance tires, should be banned from this business. But as usual, you do good Google searches, but I actually highly doubt you understand the text (if you read it).

I did drive a friend of mine's BMW and Porsche 911. They drive no different than any other car on city streets but I didn't take them to a challenge.

Yes, I saw that they stated that caveat about winter tires, but that would not change the results much (speaking of understanding the text), as where the BMW suffered most was in other issues besides handling.

BMW is not what it used to be according to all reviews I have seen in the recent years. Handling has lost its luster and the rest of the car has fallen behind the competition. Audi is the highest-rated and most refined luxury European car now, despite its focus not being on handling, and its reliability is far ahead of any other European make.

These are the facts -- like them or not.

Originally Posted by A_Harman
Rod bearings shouldn't be a maintenance item.
My suggestion for fixing the BMW M-engine rod bearing problem is to replace them with GM LS engine bearings, and to include the rest of the engine while you are doing it.

Why not include the rest of the car?

My point is that people (panel) who is willing to compare brakes of a car on winter tires and besides that having basic suspension compared to other cars, should not be in this business. Winter tires in 90 degree weather could do easily more than 60-80ft more in 0-70 braking, if not even more, and braking was one of the complaints.
That is basic automotive knowledge, and winter tires and performance tires comparison is big NO for anyone serious.
Why would I take them serious? I drove extensively BMW 3 F30 series. it is not as razor sharp as previous BMW's, but Transmission/engine combo in that class is not matched yet.
As for reliability, please go take a another look. You are champion in Google search.
As far as Porsche 911, your impression of a car is the reason why BMW for example went with ceramic brakes, since they are trying to satisfy these wanna be drivers.
 
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Originally Posted by edyvw
now I might actually go for M235i instead of E90 335i next year. That platform is developed from E90, which is much better to drive than F30.

Between those two, heck yeah I'd pick the 2er (unless I needed back doors).

But aren't those both challenging to own long-term, mainly engine-wise?


My only grip about the 2-er is the size of the trunk opening. I was disappointed because really really wanted to get a M235i. I almost swore it was tighter than the trunk opening of an E36.
 
Originally Posted by Gokhan
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Gokhan
Luxury sports sedan challenge: Is the BMW 3 series still best?

Audi tops the list despite its lackluster handling; Cadillac has the best steering. BMW is said to be "already struggling."

From your writing it is obvious you never had an opportunity to drive these cars. Some who does comparison tests with car on winter tires in 90 degree weather with other cars on performance tires, should be banned from this business. But as usual, you do good Google searches, but I actually highly doubt you understand the text (if you read it).

I did drive a friend of mine's BMW and Porsche 911. They drive no different than any other car on city streets but I didn't take them to a challenge.

Yes, I saw that they stated that caveat about winter tires, but that would not change the results much (speaking of understanding the text), as where the BMW suffered most was in other issues besides handling.

BMW is not what it used to be according to all reviews I have seen in the recent years. Handling has lost its luster and the rest of the car has fallen behind the competition. Audi is the highest-rated and most refined luxury European car now, despite its focus not being on handling, and its reliability is far ahead of any other European make.

These are the facts -- like them or not.

Originally Posted by A_Harman
Rod bearings shouldn't be a maintenance item.
My suggestion for fixing the BMW M-engine rod bearing problem is to replace them with GM LS engine bearings, and to include the rest of the engine while you are doing it.

Why not include the rest of the car?



Some perspective is required. Basically what these reviews are saying is that due to the tighter efficiency/emissions requirements the germans have all moved to electronic steering and similar powertrains so there's less of a difference between BMW and the competition in terms of performance and driving feel. I've read that the new 3 series has regained some of that feel but it's only in the 4 cylinder models because it's these models which have enough room to fit the new electric steering rack whereas the I6 models will still have the current system which garnered so many complaints.
 
Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Originally Posted by edyvw
now I might actually go for M235i instead of E90 335i next year. That platform is developed from E90, which is much better to drive than F30.

Between those two, heck yeah I'd pick the 2er (unless I needed back doors).

But aren't those both challenging to own long-term, mainly engine-wise?


My only grip about the 2-er is the size of the trunk opening. I was disappointed because really really wanted to get a M235i. I almost swore it was tighter than the trunk opening of an E36.

Guys, I have Toyota Sienna for family needs
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When I figured I need to get rid of X5 due to expanding family and fact that we do some 5-6,000 mile road trips, I was thinking: another great driving SUV so I can haul family and have fun when I go to ski on curvy mountain roads here in CO twice a week.
However, all SUV's I tried were like, whatever. Closest to X5 was Dodge Durango 5.7 HEMI, but there were issues I had with practicality and plastic inside was so so. Audi Q7 was just bit bigger (1st gen 2015) than my X5 inside, but driving dynamic in that S-Line 3.0T was nowhere near X5.
I figured, I can get Sienna AWD and check all family boxes, and still be left with money for good sporty car to have fun in.
So, only issue I have with M235i is that xDrive comes only with automatic, and there is no way I am going to have my little fun car with automatic. Third pedal is a MUST and not negotiable.
So, E90 335i xDrive or F30 335i xDrive, but I am leaning to E90. Also, I might pull M235i RWD and just drive Sienna during snowy days, but I really like snowy days in the Rockies and really hate driving this POS Toyota.
 
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